Michigan 2012 Transfer Thread Forum

[Should I Transfer??]

For admitted people or Michigan transfers from last year: how do you interpret the dates for EIW in relation to depositing? Letter says accept by July 17th for same terms as other 2L's & the deadline for bidding is July 25th. What does "same terms" mean/what disadvantage for accepting on say, July 20th?

[keg411]

For admitted people or Michigan transfers from last year: how do you interpret the dates for EIW in relation to depositing? Letter says accept by July 17th for same terms as other 2L's & the deadline for bidding is July 25th. What does "same terms" mean/what disadvantage for accepting on say, July 20th?

I accepted before the deadline, but I think the deadlines were a little later last year.

And by "same terms" they mean that you just end up in the lottery with everyone else based on your bidlist as if you were a regular Michigan 2L (and EIW is entirely lottery).

[Should I Transfer??]

For admitted people or Michigan transfers from last year: how do you interpret the dates for EIW in relation to depositing? Letter says accept by July 17th for same terms as other 2L's & the deadline for bidding is July 25th. What does "same terms" mean/what disadvantage for accepting on say, July 20th?

I accepted before the deadline, but I think the deadlines were a little later last year.

And by "same terms" they mean that you just end up in the lottery with everyone else based on your bidlist as if you were a regular Michigan 2L (and EIW is entirely lottery).

Thanks kegs. So basically, there is no disadvantage with respect to EIW so long as you deposit and get your bids in before the bidding deadline.

[wolverteer]

I'm top 11% @ T2 school with strong Michigan ties, resident, alum etc. Still have yet to hear anything. Hope running out? Sounds like at least 15 or so people have gotten in and posted on this thread. Assuming there are others that got in but didn't post. Doesn't leave many spots :-/

[transferbound]

I'm top 11% @ T2 school with strong Michigan ties, resident, alum etc. Still have yet to hear anything. Hope running out? Sounds like at least 15 or so people have gotten in and posted on this thread. Assuming there are others that got in but didn't post. Doesn't leave many spots :-/

What kind of t2? 50s? 60s?

[wolverteer]

I'm top 11% @ T2 school with strong Michigan ties, resident, alum etc. Still have yet to hear anything. Hope running out? Sounds like at least 15 or so people have gotten in and posted on this thread. Assuming there are others that got in but didn't post. Doesn't leave many spots :-/

What kind of t2? 50s? 60s?

Was 50s when I enrolled, has slipped into 60s though haha

[transferbound]

I'm top 11% @ T2 school with strong Michigan ties, resident, alum etc. Still have yet to hear anything. Hope running out? Sounds like at least 15 or so people have gotten in and posted on this thread. Assuming there are others that got in but didn't post. Doesn't leave many spots :-/

What kind of t2? 50s? 60s?

Was 50s when I enrolled, has slipped into 60s though haha

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[eastcoast_iub]

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[keg411]

For admitted people or Michigan transfers from last year: how do you interpret the dates for EIW in relation to depositing? Letter says accept by July 17th for same terms as other 2L's & the deadline for bidding is July 25th. What does "same terms" mean/what disadvantage for accepting on say, July 20th?

I accepted before the deadline, but I think the deadlines were a little later last year.

And by "same terms" they mean that you just end up in the lottery with everyone else based on your bidlist as if you were a regular Michigan 2L (and EIW is entirely lottery).

Thanks kegs. So basically, there is no disadvantage with respect to EIW so long as you deposit and get your bids in before the bidding deadline.

Yup .

[shock259]

Update: Top 12% at IUB, accepted today.

Congrats!

Are you going to take NU? Michigan?

[transferbound]

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[eastcoast_iub]

Update: Top 12% at IUB, accepted today.

Congrats!

Are you going to take NU? Michigan?

Thanks man. I'm trying to gather some info and work this out right now (still hoping for Penn also). NU has better Big Law stats but Michigan places better on the East Coast (plus there must be something to substantiate Michigan's consistently higher rank).

[Should I Transfer??]

I think the choice between NU and M is a difficult one. My general, purely anecdotal evidence from past threads is that Michigan transfers, overall, seem to do better than NU transfers at securing biglaw positions. Possible explanations for this include: NU's emphasis on enrolling students with work experience puts transfers, who are more likely to lack significant work experience as compared with the average NU non-transfer student, at a disadvantage; NU does not allow students to put GPA information on resumes at OCI which might hurt transfers, especially those from less well regarded schools; NU's transfer admissions in general may be more lax then M's, resulting in the M transfer class just being stronger overall; M may have more internal support for transfers than NU (e.g. editor of law review at Michigan was recently a transfer student); NU's inflated GPA curve may make transfers GPA's look less impressive; and I'm sure there are more possibilities.

Setting transfers aside, NU seems to place more students into biglaw than M does. M seems to have a better reputation for academia and places more students into prestigious clerkships than NU.

It is hard making these decisions and is made harder trying to do so without proper empirical data from the schools regarding the success (or failure) of transfers. At this point I am leaning towards M (barring acceptances from other schools) over NU as being the safer bet for securing biglaw. However, I would prefer to live in Chicago for the next two years and am still early in the decision making process (i.e. I may be leaning the other way tomorrow).

It's late and this has been sort of a rambling stream of consciousness, but I hope it helps someone.

[transferbound]

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[Lyonsoccer87]

not one word... smh

[keg411]

As a Michigan transfer, Should I Transfer's analysis is spot on.

[shock259]

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In via phone call. T40, Top 8%, 1 year WE

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[pballer]

congrats!

[shock259]

Also, re NU vs M, I am torn. I could definitely see the analysis above as true. But it is a bit hard to swallow in light of the NLJ250 numbers for the general populations of both schools. NU is rocking 52%, and M was down to 30% last year.

http://www.lawschooltransparency.com/20 ... tatistics/

But I guess I'll wait and see where else I get in before thinking about it too hard.

[keg411]

Also, re NU vs M, I am torn. I could definitely see the analysis above as true. But it is a bit hard to swallow in light of the NLJ250 numbers for the general populations of both schools. NU is rocking 52%, and M was down to 30% last year.

http://www.lawschooltransparency.com/20 ... tatistics/

But I guess I'll wait and see where else I get in before thinking about it too hard.

The NLJ250 numbers DO NOT APPLY TO TRANSFERS. M transfers do better than NU transfers.

[shock259]

Fair enough.

I'm probably going to PM you tons of questions about your experience soon.

[keg411]

Fair enough.

I'm probably going to PM you tons of questions about your experience soon.

No prob, glad to help .

[transferbound]

Fair enough.

I'm probably going to PM you tons of questions about your experience soon.

No prob, glad to help .

I'll be PMing you as well. I'm in the same NU vs. Michigan boat and I really have no idea which one to pick...!

[transferbound]

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[shock259]

NU's OCI begins on 14 August. Michigan's OCI starts on 21 August.