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Re: Stay at Fordham or transfer to Cornell?
The NYC legal community is way overpopulated. You have great numbers and decent shot to get a big firm job. But without any scholarship I would say go to Cornell. Much better school and a "nationally" recognized one; whereas Fordham is more regionally known (and in a region competing directly with NYU, Columbia)
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Re: Stay at Fordham or transfer to Cornell?
You sound like a 0L. OP already has amazing grades at Fordham and will also be competing with NYU/CLS as a Cornell person. Law Review is also a pretty big deal. OP also has a pretty good shot at getting one of Columbia/NYU.m1234 wrote:The NYC legal community is way overpopulated. You have great numbers and decent shot to get a big firm job. But without any scholarship I would say go to Cornell. Much better school and a "nationally" recognized one; whereas Fordham is more regionally known (and in a region competing directly with NYU, Columbia)
OP - the real question is: what does your loan/scholarship situation look like?
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Re: Stay at Fordham or transfer to Cornell?
Peace out brah. Cornell is higher in the rankings, what else do you need to consider
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Re: Stay at Fordham or transfer to Cornell?
Going to Cornell could be a huge mistake. You are on Law Review at a huge NYC Feeder School. If you want NYC Biglaw, you are set if you aren't socially retarded. Also, Fordham + LR carries well elsewhere, not doors are really closed to you just because you didn't go to cornell.
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Re: Stay at Fordham or transfer to Cornell?
+1 this one ^$$$$$$ wrote:Going to Cornell could be a huge mistake. You are on Law Review at a huge NYC Feeder School. If you want NYC Biglaw, you are set if you aren't socially retarded. Also, Fordham + LR carries well elsewhere, not doors are really closed to you just because you didn't go to cornell.
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Re: Stay at Fordham or transfer to Cornell?
I understand that I will not be opening any new doors by going to Cornell but I won't be closing any doors either right?
Also wouldn't I be competitive at the same firms at Cornell as from fordham?
Also wouldn't I be competitive at the same firms at Cornell as from fordham?
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Re: Stay at Fordham or transfer to Cornell?
In your case, transferring to Cornell would be a huge mistake. While obtaining NYC biglaw from Fordham is not easy, you have sufficiently distinguished yourself such that you will likely have excellent biglaw prospects. I disagree that you "won't be closing any doors" by transferring to Cornell. For example, your academic achievements at Fordham place you in a solid position to obtain a clerkship, which might not be the case at Cornell where you have no GPA and no guaranteed journal membership. At bottom, you will lose the following that are ideal getting NYC biglaw: (1) an excellent 1L GPA/high class rank at a well-respected school in your goal market; (2) a prestigious law review membership; and (3) any faculty relationships that you fostered at Fordham. I advise that you remain at Fordham.
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Re: Stay at Fordham or transfer to Cornell?
OP isn't going to lose (1) by going to Cornell. OCI employers will still look at OP as top 5% at Fordham. (2) and (3) definitely make a difference, however.mighttransfer wrote:In your case, transferring to Cornell would be a huge mistake. While obtaining NYC biglaw from Fordham is not easy, you have sufficiently distinguished yourself such that you will likely have excellent biglaw prospects. I disagree that you "won't be closing any doors" by transferring to Cornell. For example, your academic achievements at Fordham place you in a solid position to obtain a clerkship, which might not be the case at Cornell where you have no GPA and no guaranteed journal membership. At bottom, you will lose the following that are ideal getting NYC biglaw: (1) an excellent 1L GPA/high class rank at a well-respected school in your goal market; (2) a prestigious law review membership; and (3) any faculty relationships that you fostered at Fordham. I advise that you remain at Fordham.
If OP did not make LR, I would say transfer. That said, I know someone who was top 5% at Fordham who transferred to Columbia and didn't regret it at all (she disliked Fordham). But Columbia is a totally different story than Cornell.
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Re: Stay at Fordham or transfer to Cornell?
Fordham + LR is just as good/better than Cornell. Don't transfer; Cornell isn't worth it. Applied to Yale, Harvard, Columbia or NYU? Those would be the only schools worth it for you.
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Re: Stay at Fordham or transfer to Cornell?
Have you tried to get money from Fordham? I was able to get them to double my scholarship as an incoming 1L. If you are entirely on the fence, maybe even a modest scholarship would help.
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Re: Stay at Fordham or transfer to Cornell?
who did you ask and how did you go about bringing it up?no_more_lurking wrote:Have you tried to get money from Fordham? I was able to get them to double my scholarship as an incoming 1L. If you are entirely on the fence, maybe even a modest scholarship would help.
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Re: Stay at Fordham or transfer to Cornell?
So you know...I am not a 0L. Just offering my advice; it can be taken or not.keg411 wrote:You sound like a 0L. OP already has amazing grades at Fordham and will also be competing with NYU/CLS as a Cornell person. Law Review is also a pretty big deal. OP also has a pretty good shot at getting one of Columbia/NYU.m1234 wrote:The NYC legal community is way overpopulated. You have great numbers and decent shot to get a big firm job. But without any scholarship I would say go to Cornell. Much better school and a "nationally" recognized one; whereas Fordham is more regionally known (and in a region competing directly with NYU, Columbia)
OP - the real question is: what does your loan/scholarship situation look like?
*Clarification on my original post: You have great grades and opportunities at Fordham that give you a good shot at big law in NYC. But the NYC market is hypercompetitive, so it is very rarely a given someone will get one of those positions. Cornell would give you more mobility to get BigLaw in cities other than NYC (not sure what location you want). But you would have to risk giving up the cushion your 1L grades and Law Review status will give you. Difficult decision.
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Re: Stay at Fordham or transfer to Cornell?
I had met one of the financial aid officers at accepted student day, so I emailed her directly. I'd suggest you email the general financial aid address... they've been very responsive when I've had questions the last few weeks.Gigaton Punch wrote:who did you ask and how did you go about bringing it up?no_more_lurking wrote:Have you tried to get money from Fordham? I was able to get them to double my scholarship as an incoming 1L. If you are entirely on the fence, maybe even a modest scholarship would help.
My approach was to email and request a phone meeting. In my email, I briefly laid out my case for a merit scholarship. They didn't bite on speaking over the phone, but said they would review my file and email me about it. They were very professional about the whole thing and got back to me next day. Good luck!
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Re: Stay at Fordham or transfer to Cornell?
If awarded a scholarship from Fordham, then the easy answer is to stay; if not awarded a scholarship from Fordham & you want NYC biglaw, then the tough choice is to stay, but expect to experience buyer's remorse.
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