Top 30% @Cooley Transfer UMiami, Florida, Baylor, Houston, Forum

[asyed5]

Hello,

I have a 2.96 from Cooley which due to the harsh curve is 28%. Any experience or advice about potentially transferring to any of the following schools would be appreciated.

Ohio
Case Western Reserve Law School (Tier 2)

Florida
Stetson (Tier 3)
Florida State University (Tier 2)
University of Miami Law School (Tier 2)
University of FL (Tier 1)

Texas
Texas Tech (Tier 3)
University of Houston Law School (Tier 2)
Southern Methodist (Tier 1)
Baylor (T2)

California (all Tier 2 schools except Southwestern)

Pepperdine
Loyola
University of san diego
Santa clara
University of san francisco
University of pacific
Southwestern



Thanks.

[zomginternets]

Wait so you started at Cooley in Fall 2010, just did a spring-intake transfer to Cleveland State, and now want to transfer to one of the listed law schools for Fall 2011?

I haven't heard of anyone transferring more than once. My intuition is that an adcomm would be skeptical of why you can't seem to pick a school that works for you (rank-whoring isn't a good reason), so I think that would definitely need to be addressed in your personal statement.

As far as grades, I'm pretty sure all of those schools require Spring 2011 grades back before they will consider your application for Fall 2011, so you will have your Cleveland State grades on there.

If I am mistaken and you did a full year at Cooley and are in your second year at Cleveland State, a lot of schools don't take 3rd-year transfers. I don't know if that is or is not the case at the schools you have listed (I quickly checked Baylor's website and they don't say anything about it), but you should definitely make sure.

[asyed5]

started at cooley jan 2010, had to wait for my 30 credits worth of grades until 4th week of my third semester which was this past fall. I was born in Cali and raised in Toronto so I picked Cleveland cus its the same distance from home (4.5 hour drive) I knew it would be a smooth transfer and I was too much of a pussy to move far away from all family n friends.

now im saying fuck it and thinking long term where I want to live, start my career and practice so I manned up and got the balls to move. Applying for this summer term deadline is mid March or early April for those schools so I for sure will not have any cleveland state marks up because ill still be in classes. Transferring twice shouldnt be an issue as Florida State transfers up to 45 credits which should work perfectly for me. Ill be applying to schools that take for summer (instead of wasting more time here) and for some of those schools for September...I just really don't want Cleveland either anymore.

One of my reasons is definitely cuz I want to live in Cali, Texas, or Florida because I'm sick and tired of this bullshit Northern weather. But this is all getting away from the point. Asking if anyone has any specific info about class rank requirements for the schools listed!

[zomginternets]

There isn't really school-specific info about exactly what class rank will from school X will get you into school Y. but the general consensus on here is that lateral transfers (i.e. T3 -> T3) require around top 30-40%. Significant upward transfers (any T1 or high-ranked T2) would require closer to top 10%, methinks. Basically, the lower ranked the school, the higher your grades need to be, but there's no magic formula.

I'm not sure how they would calculate your grade and ranking since you would have grades/rank from 2 schools. I think they would take into account the Cooley grades because you either a) want to transfer for the summer, in which case you won't have spring grades yet, or b) you want to transfer for the Fall, in which case you won't have a full year's worth of grades from Cleveland anyway, so they will either just go on Cooley grades or somehow mesh your Cooley/Cleveland grades and rank.

Going by what has been said on this forum, Cooley seems to be kind of like a black-listed law school for transfer to other schools. Thus, top 30% from Cooley I think would get you into the T3 schools, but I don't think would cut it for T2 or T1. Significantly improved performance at Cleveland might help offset this, but I think you need to get like top 5% from Cleveland to have a realistic shot at any of the T1/higher T2 schools.

[random5483]

I have never heard of a double transfer. Plus far as I know, the ABA caps transferrable units at 30 or so.

[asyed5]

go to the florida state website. they transfer up to 45 credits. michigan state transfers up to 43. It is possible. As for the application it won't say anything about cleveland since they will be evaluating me solely based on my credentials from Cooley. I could be taking off the semester sitting home and jerking off for all they care.

dont know why i even mentioned transferring to cleveland lol everyone is getting caught up with the DOUBLE TRANSFER bullshit when the real question is whether anyone has transferred to these schools or has any knowledge that might help. Thanks.
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[dr123]

You'll probably need a damn good reason to transfer a second time

[asyed5]

DUDE dont get caught up on this double transfer bullshit. For fucks sakes.

ill take care of everything else lol. only post regarding experience knowledge or advice transferring to the schools I listed in general or based on my credentials for the law school (top 30% at Cooley).

thanks all

[dr123]

whatevs bro, i just think you should talk to some practicing attorneys you know about this. imo, if anything screams flight risk its someone who went to 3 law schools

[maf70]

I dont know how youd manage to pull off a transfer without disclosing youre at Cleveland State and it's your second transfer. Furthermore, I don't know why a school would want to accept someone transferring for a second time without a compelling reason. Just put that you dont like the weather...Im sure that'll go over well.

Although you dont want people to comment on the second transfer thing...it matters. Your transfer school, which you should already know, requires a letter of good standing from your CURRENT law school.

Also...straight from FSU's website..."Official law school transcript from all law schools attended showing all law coursework attempted."

[random5483]

go to the florida state website. they transfer up to 45 credits. michigan state transfers up to 43. It is possible. As for the application it won't say anything about cleveland since they will be evaluating me solely based on my credentials from Cooley. I could be taking off the semester sitting home and jerking off for all they care.

dont know why i even mentioned transferring to cleveland lol everyone is getting caught up with the DOUBLE TRANSFER bullshit when the real question is whether anyone has transferred to these schools or has any knowledge that might help. Thanks.
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FSU's website does not mention how many transfer units they accept. They merely state you need to do a minimum of 45 units to get a degree. Quoted language is, "To obtain a degree from Florida State University College of Law, a minimum of 45 semester hours of approved credit work must be completed." The aforesaid language does not state they will accept 45 units from transfer apps.

[XxSpyKEx]

go to the florida state website. they transfer up to 45 credits. michigan state transfers up to 43. It is possible. As for the application it won't say anything about cleveland since they will be evaluating me solely based on my credentials from Cooley. I could be taking off the semester sitting home and jerking off for all they care.

dont know why i even mentioned transferring to cleveland lol everyone is getting caught up with the DOUBLE TRANSFER bullshit when the real question is whether anyone has transferred to these schools or has any knowledge that might help. Thanks.
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FSU's website does not mention how many transfer units they accept. They merely state you need to do a minimum of 45 units to get a degree. Quoted language is, "To obtain a degree from Florida State University College of Law, a minimum of 45 semester hours of approved credit work must be completed." The aforesaid language does not state they will accept 45 units from transfer apps.

yeah, I’m pretty sure there is some ABA rule that says you have to complete roughly 2/3s of your law school education at one institutions

whatevs bro, i just think you should talk to some practicing attorneys you know about this. imo, if anything screams flight risk its someone who went to 3 law schools

Lol, like this guy is going to find employment ITE anyways (unless he personally knows someone who is willing to hire him). Cooley top 1% is unemployable right now, top 1/3 in a different market is definitely not.

[RVP11]

whatevs bro, i just think you should talk to some practicing attorneys you know about this.

Fact that OP chose to attend Cooley makes it likely that he doesn't know any practicing attorneys.

[asyed5]

fuck ya u guys r still hung up over transfer credits. welll first off there are a lot of law schools SURPRSINGLY that all they require is 45 credits which is HALF a law degree at their schools. PS. i was one of the retards who didnt do their research properly to begin with....3.4 GPA and 157 LSAT....Cooley was driving distance from TO and I was almost at a 100% scholarship so thats why I went. Got a guaranteed job in TO my uncle is a lawyer so no problem...just want to practice in the US now that some things have changed.

[asyed5]

and no.... no ABA rule...think about it..FSU publicly says on their website....45 CREDITS MUST BE COMPLETED THERE.....that means half elsewhere do the math. damn u would think half u guys should have gone to Cooley instead of me. Fuck.

[Hank Chill]

and no.... no ABA rule...think about it..FSU publicly says on their website....45 CREDITS MUST BE COMPLETED THERE.....that means half elsewhere do the math. damn u would think half u guys should have gone to Cooley instead of me. Fuck.

Lol

[asyed5]

the only half decent reply I've seen here is from zomginternets even that person after providing some perspective like shit. this is ridiculous.

[asyed5]

y'all went to law school right? that means you cant get points for talking about shit that is irrelevant. you have to issue spot. so heres the issue comment if u have experience, advice, or knowledge about transferring to these law schools...if not then go on your way, all the best and have a nice life!!

[dr123]

y'all went to law school right? that means you cant get points for talking about shit that is irrelavant. you have to issue spot. so heres the issue comment if u have experience, advice, or knowledge about transferring to these law schools...if not then go on your way, all the best and have a nice life!!

how is transferring twice irrelevant. You HAVE to realize how ridiculous it is to go to 3 different law schools

[asyed5]

bro u got to be dumb as a brick. circumstances led me elsewhere if u cant tell without going into more detail.

[dr123]

bro u got to be dumb as a brick. circumstances led me elsewhere if u cant tell without going into more detail.

uhm, seems more like poor decision making rather than "circumstances"

[asyed5]

ya u r correct. without going into more detail it was a bit of both. but the question is regarding transfer requirements. have a good night.

[asyed5]

I could go through marriage and divorce and other ties I had with Toronto and hence me wanting to stay close to there....would that make u happy? justify a legitimate response to a valid question? Listen I don't need to explain myself. Answer based on credentials only and lets just stick to the subject

[zomginternets]

ya u r correct. without going into more detail it was a bit of both bro. but the question is regarding transfer requirements. have a good night.

Look, no one knows what you mean by "transfer requirements".

As in what you need to send to the school for a completed application? Look at their website.

As in the minimum GPA/class rank needed to get into each school? You're not going to get a more specific answer than what I gave you. Even if someone comes in here and says "yea bro i got into texas from cooley wit top 35%," it doesn't mean you are an auto-admit there because you pulled a 30%.

Even ASSUMING the adcomms overlook your double transfer deal, your class rank is low enough that you are not an auto-admit anywhere, not even the T3's that you listed.

[asyed5]

dude I think its pretty fucking straightforward. if theres someone who transferred from t3-t4 to any of the schools listed or if u know someone who did just list the class rank. not asking a lot. thats that. Are u purposely trying to piss me off? I hope not. Up to this point you seemed like the most worthwhile contributor. I've heard of top 20% at cooley going to UMiami just curious to see how everything works out for most. By the way I have EXCELLENT work experience in professional services. thanks again.