Do transfers receive merit based scholarships? Forum

[seriously]

I'm curious.

If a student it top 5%, does it only help the student transfer to a higher ranked school? OR, could it bring in some scholarship?

Thanks.

[zizou]

I have seen posts on this board that it never happens, but I actually have a friend who transferred and received a scholarship. I think it is pretty rare though.

[yabbadabbado]

Typically, NO. If you are in a position to transfer to a much higher ranked school it is possible that the lower ranked school may be able to offer you scholly $ to stay.

[Big Shrimpin]

I'm curious.

If a student it top 5%, does it only help the student transfer to a higher ranked school? OR, could it bring in some scholarship?

Thanks.

No /thread

[Feynman]

I'm curious.

If a student it top 5%, does it only help the student transfer to a higher ranked school? OR, could it bring in some scholarship?

Thanks.

It can bring in some scholarship at your current school. It happens. But don't count on it.

edit for clarity: You will not receive a scholarship at your destination school (at least most schools people would want to transfer to in the first place). I did read once that a T2 school offered a guy a scholarship as a transfer.

[zizou]

I'm curious.

If a student it top 5%, does it only help the student transfer to a higher ranked school? OR, could it bring in some scholarship?

Thanks.

No /thread

Yes? I personally know someone who this happened to.

[kings84_wr]

I'm curious.

If a student it top 5%, does it only help the student transfer to a higher ranked school? OR, could it bring in some scholarship?

Thanks.

No /thread

Yes? I personally know someone who this happened to.

Was it need aid? Ive heard of need aid, but not merit.

[ToTransferOrNot]

I'm curious.

If a student it top 5%, does it only help the student transfer to a higher ranked school? OR, could it bring in some scholarship?

Thanks.

No /thread

Yes? I personally know someone who this happened to.

No offense, but more detailed information needed or it didn't happen/you've been misinformed.

[sanpiero]

according their admissions office, fordham offers merit aid to some transfer students. i am aware of a similar policy at a T2

[pleasetryagain]

according their admissions office, fordham offers merit aid to some transfer students. i am aware of a similar policy at a T2

rofl.. fordham doesnt count

[ToTransferOrNot]

No one cares re: the T2. Shocked re: Fordham.

[sanpiero]

there are plenty of people on these boards trying to transfer from a T4 or T3 to a T2.

you not caring =/=

No one cares re: the T2.

[ToTransferOrNot]

there are plenty of people on these boards trying to transfer from a T4 or T3 to a T2.

you not caring =/=

No one cares re: the T2.

Those people are, by and large, being foolish. Transferring up to a T2 doesn't give you the same benefits that transferring in to a T14 (and a handful of other schools--transferring from a NYLS to a Fordham might be a good move depending on what you're giving up at NYLS, from Baylor to UT, from one of the lesser CA schools to UCLA/USC) provides, because all schools start to become precisely the same after a certain point. The only really justifiable reason to transfer from a T3/T4 is if you have decided that the T3/T4 isn't in the market you want to practice in.

Why in God's name would you give up top 5-10%, LR etc at a T3/T4 in order to transfer to a T2, which won't have noticeably different placement opportunities, and may in fact hurt you because you've given up the only resume lines that matter coming out of TTTs?

[sanpiero]

there are plenty of people on these boards trying to transfer from a T4 or T3 to a T2.

you not caring =/=

No one cares re: the T2.

Those people are, by and large, being foolish. Transferring up to a T2 doesn't give you the same benefits that transferring in to a T14 (and a handful of other schools--transferring from a NYLS to a Fordham might be a good move depending on what you're giving up at NYLS, from Baylor to UT, from one of the lesser CA schools to UCLA/USC) provides, because all schools start to become precisely the same after a certain point. The only really justifiable reason to transfer from a T3/T4 is if you have decided that the T3/T4 isn't in the market you want to practice in.

Why in God's name would you give up top 5-10%, LR etc at a T3/T4 in order to transfer to a T2, which won't have noticeably different placement opportunities, and may in fact hurt you because you've given up the only resume lines that matter coming out of TTTs?

Agreed. The only reason I can see is geographic preference of the T2's region over that of the T3/4.

FWIW, I thought your post was rude, so I thought I'd mention that there are people out there looking to go T3/4 to T2. I'm not one of them, and I see why such a move typically isn't advisable. If there aren't geographic concerns at play, ITE there are very few good reasons to transfer to a school outside the T6 (if you're at a T1), T14 (if you're at a T2), or T18 (if you're at a T3/4).

[Feynman]

Agreed. The only reason I can see is geographic preference of the T2's region over that of the T3/4.

FWIW, I thought your post was rude, so I thought I'd mention that there are people out there looking to go T3/4 to T2.

He often comes across that way. TTON needs to dial down his douchiness. His points are correct but geographic preference and proximity to family/friends are the obvious reasons why somebody would move. However, I would recommend a move from a T4 to a T2 if the the T4 was one of the few with truly atrocious reputations (Cooley, for example).

[ToTransferOrNot]

Agreed. The only reason I can see is geographic preference of the T2's region over that of the T3/4.

FWIW, I thought your post was rude, so I thought I'd mention that there are people out there looking to go T3/4 to T2.

He often comes across that way. TTON needs to dial down his douchiness. His points are correct but geographic preference and proximity to family/friends are the obvious reasons why somebody would move. However, I would recommend a move from a T4 to a T2 if the the T4 was one of the few with truly atrocious reputations (Cooley, for example).

Credited on all points. My problem is that I post on TLS after several beverages/I'm letting out my inner douche on the interwebz after a day of being essentially the most agreeable and docile person in existence

[A'nold]

Eh, TTON's great.

I am curious about need aid. Someone on here told me that Berkeley has some decent need aid for transfers. I be needy.

[ToTransferOrNot]

Eh, TTON's great.

I am curious about need aid. Someone on here told me that Berkeley has some decent need aid for transfers. I be needy.

Berkeley does need aid. HYS do need aid. Georgetown does some aid--basically, any aid that was "left behind" by folks transferring out is made available to folks transferring in.

Not sure about other schools. The only thing I can speak to with 1000% certainty is that UChicago absolutely does not do aid of any sort to transfers

[sixburgher]

Does it happen that your current school would offer you more merit scholarship after 1L because of top grades? I don't see why a school would do this. As an enrolled student you aren't helping their stats or rep, unless you would graduate and get a prestigious clerkship or BigLaw job, and I can't see schools throwing money at you on the chance that you land something big.

Plus, you leave a place at the school for a transfer to come in and pay full tuition. In a way, it seems like it's in the best interest of the school that some of its top students transfer.

[Feynman]

Does it happen that your current school would offer you more merit scholarship after 1L because of top grades? I don't see why a school would do this. As an enrolled student you aren't helping their stats or rep, unless you would graduate and get a prestigious clerkship or BigLaw job, and I can't see schools throwing money at you on the chance that you land something big.

Plus, you leave a place at the school for a transfer to come in and pay full tuition. In a way, it seems like it's in the best interest of the school that some of its top students transfer.

It happens. Who knows how often it does, but it's not uncommon. As to their motivation: If you leave they get nothing. Many TTTs are not going to be able to fill those empty spots with transfers so the relevant question becomes: Give partial scholarship and maintain some revenue or let one of our best students transfer and get nothing. Additionally, it cannot look good to other students (or prospective students) when the best and brightest are transferring out.

[sixburgher]

Does it happen that your current school would offer you more merit scholarship after 1L because of top grades? I don't see why a school would do this. As an enrolled student you aren't helping their stats or rep, unless you would graduate and get a prestigious clerkship or BigLaw job, and I can't see schools throwing money at you on the chance that you land something big.

Plus, you leave a place at the school for a transfer to come in and pay full tuition. In a way, it seems like it's in the best interest of the school that some of its top students transfer.

It happens. Who knows how often it does, but it's not uncommon. As to their motivation: If you leave they get nothing. Many TTTs are not going to be able to fill those empty spots with transfers so the relevant question becomes: Give partial scholarship and maintain some revenue or let one of our best students transfer and get nothing. Additionally, it cannot look good to other students (or prospective students) when the best and brightest are transferring out.

Ah OK, I'm with you there. I was thinking more about T50 schools which presumably get more transfer apps than they can accept, but if a school isn't getting many transfer apps then it would definitely make sense for them to try to keep their best people.

[A'nold]

Nah, I think you guys are both off a little here. Think about this: if you are attending a t2-t4 and are at the top, you are basically their star student(s). Many of these schools struggle with bar passage rates/getting their student's OCI bids. If those students leave, sure, some of the top 20% become the new top 10%, but the caliber of the class just took a severe hit.

[Feynman]

Nah, I think you guys are both off a little here. Think about this: if you are attending a t2-t4 and are at the top, you are basically their star student(s). Many of these schools struggle with bar passage rates/getting their student's OCI bids. If those students leave, sure, some of the top 20% become the new top 10%, but the caliber of the class just took a severe hit.

This too, but he was speaking in pure economic/US News terms. Obviously a more holistic view favors trying to keep the best students, but it can also make sense in a strict economic sense as well. I am not in a position to know why some schools offer scholarships to top students after 1L (or to dissuade them from transferring), but there are certainly many rational reasons to do so. In any case, it does happen.

[ruleser]

A Loyola prof told of a student who transferred to USC and got $$$ to do so.

[apper123]

Does it happen that your current school would offer you more merit scholarship after 1L because of top grades? I don't see why a school would do this. As an enrolled student you aren't helping their stats or rep, unless you would graduate and get a prestigious clerkship or BigLaw job, and I can't see schools throwing money at you on the chance that you land something big.

Plus, you leave a place at the school for a transfer to come in and pay full tuition. In a way, it seems like it's in the best interest of the school that some of its top students transfer.

I'd like to believe schools care about more than simply US News when they make a decision.