Official Columbia Transfer Thread Forum

[samiseaborn]

Just wondering who else hasn't heard anything yet? Been complete since 7/14 which wasn't that long ago, but since others have heard that went complete after than that...

[traydeuce]

Could just be a matter of where you live. I went complete on the 14th and got a rejection mailed to my suburban Philly home by the 21st. If you live farther, it may take another day or two. There's not much evidence they're still admitting people.

[Machine Spirit]

Anyone know how large the transfer class is supposed to be? When I spoke with a career counselor assigned to me, she stated it was "around 20". I don't know how accurate that is though; I had always assumed more.

[samiseaborn]

I actually live closer than that and haven't gotten anything, so I'm currently holding my breath that the mailman isn't just playing games with me.

Edit: wasn't last year's class closer to 50?!

[traydeuce]

Anyone know how large the transfer class is supposed to be? When I spoke with a career counselor assigned to me, she stated it was "around 20". I don't know how accurate that is though; I had always assumed more.

Wayyyy more. I think it was 90 last year. Search the forums for transfer data in/out; there was a thread on this with the numbers.

[EggShellPlaintiff]

They could be drastically reducing it. I have a lot of friends from UG that are at CLS now who have told me there was a big movement amongst the "regular" students to limit the number of transfers accepted this year. They had a huge petition going around that they presented to the Dean and Dean of Admissions and everything. Apparently, many people were unhappy with the number of transfers students last year (78, which is a lot), and many people also thought that transfers took jobs away from the rest of the population, which could be true. I friend told me that only a few (maybe 5 or 6) transfers didn't get jobs last year through OCI, while 1/3 of the general Columbia population got nothing.

[bizen boat]

Dey took yer jerbs!!!

[solidsnake]

Apparently, many people were unhappy with the number of transfers students last year (78, which is a lot), and many people also thought that transfers took jobs away from the rest of the population, which could be true. I friend told me that only a few (maybe 5 or 6) transfers didn't get jobs last year through OCI, while 1/3 of the general Columbia population got nothing.

Yeah, that's probably because the overwhelming majority of transfers were at the top of the class 1L and had demonstrated legal talent insofar as exams indicate that; and the 1/3 of the general CLS population that got nothing were probably mostly concentrated in the bottom 1/3 of the class. Those over-entitled shitheads should realize that firms likely don't want people who can't succeed where it counts while under pressure.

[traydeuce]

1/3 of the general Columbia population got nothing.

That's some serious carnage.

[CG614]

Apparently, many people were unhappy with the number of transfers students last year (78, which is a lot), and many people also thought that transfers took jobs away from the rest of the population, which could be true. I friend told me that only a few (maybe 5 or 6) transfers didn't get jobs last year through OCI, while 1/3 of the general Columbia population got nothing.

Yeah, that's probably because the overwhelming majority of transfers were at the top of the class 1L and had demonstrated legal talent insofar as exams indicate that; and the 1/3 of the general CLS population that got nothing were probably mostly concentrated in the bottom 1/3 of the class. Those over-entitled shitheads should realize that firms likely don't want people who can't succeed where it counts while under pressure.

Really? Being graded on a curve against some other seriously talented people shouldn't matter? So, going to a T4 with very limited competition and getting into CLS via transfer, should trump someone that was able to get into CLS to start and happened to be in the bottom third based on 6-7 classes? Yeah, that sounds about right.

[bizen boat]

Apparently, many people were unhappy with the number of transfers students last year (78, which is a lot), and many people also thought that transfers took jobs away from the rest of the population, which could be true. I friend told me that only a few (maybe 5 or 6) transfers didn't get jobs last year through OCI, while 1/3 of the general Columbia population got nothing.

Yeah, that's probably because the overwhelming majority of transfers were at the top of the class 1L and had demonstrated legal talent insofar as exams indicate that; and the 1/3 of the general CLS population that got nothing were probably mostly concentrated in the bottom 1/3 of the class. Those over-entitled shitheads should realize that firms likely don't want people who can't succeed where it counts while under pressure.

Really? Being graded on a curve against some other seriously talented people shouldn't matter? So, going to a T4 with very limited competition and getting into CLS via transfer, should trump someone that was able to get into CLS to start and happened to be in the bottom third based on 6-7 classes? Yeah, that sounds about right.

To be fair, I heard that the t4 transfers struck out at OCI. It was the t25 top 5% kids that beat out bottom 1/3 at Columbia. Presumably, they would have beat out bottom 1/3 at Columbia had they stayed at their T25's. That doesn't sound wrong to me.

[EggShellPlaintiff]

Does Columbia take people from T4 schools?

Anyway, what you're saying is somewhat true, most of the kids that struck out came from the T3 NYC area schools that wouldn't have gotten jobs anyway.

Edit: Nevermind, I remember from TransferApps that they did take someone last year from Touro. Redacted.

[bizen boat]

I really have no idea, as I have no affiliation with CLS. I was mostly just responding to CG614's really bad argument that relied on the assumption that Columbia not only took t4 students, but these cretins were the very people taking "real" Columbia students' jerbs.

Then I looked as his profile and saw he was an 0L about to attend Columbia and it all made sense...

[WesttoEast]

Makes me sad - I went complete within the last few days, if they're no longer admitting - I'd rather a refund than a rejection letter heh

[DeweyWins]

Makes me sad - I went complete within the last few days, if they're no longer admitting - I'd rather a refund than a rejection letter heh

They're still admitting students. I was admitted yesterday.

[holborn]

Those over-entitled shitheads.

you do realize this is a thread that is full of people who are a part of, or are trying to become a part of, the group that you're calling "over-entitled shitheads," right?

I would think that transfer students would want to integrate with the Columbia community, and not perpetuate any us vs. them mentality that might exist.

[b1ue]

Those over-entitled shitheads.

you do realize this is a thread that is full of people who are a part of, or are trying to become a part of, the group that you're calling "over-entitled shitheads," right?

I would think that transfer students would want to integrate with the Columbia community, and not perpetuate any us vs. them mentality that might exist.

assimilation ftw

[solidsnake]

Those over-entitled shitheads.

you do realize this is a thread that is full of people who are a part of, or are trying to become a part of, the group that you're calling "over-entitled shitheads," right?

I would think that transfer students would want to integrate with the Columbia community, and not perpetuate any us vs. them mentality that might exist.

"[O]ver-entitled" refers to any law student who believes that they deserve a firm job by virtue of pedigree alone, regardless of class rank. "hitheads" refers to people who sign petitions to enact protectionist measures because they are afraid of a little competition.

[holborn]

Those over-entitled shitheads.

you do realize this is a thread that is full of people who are a part of, or are trying to become a part of, the group that you're calling "over-entitled shitheads," right?

I would think that transfer students would want to integrate with the Columbia community, and not perpetuate any us vs. them mentality that might exist.

"[O]ver-entitled shitheads" refers to any law student who believes that they deserve a firm job by virtue of pedigree alone, regardless of class rank.

its probably less that they think that the transfers are less worthy/dumber/TTT and more that if columbia hadn't let in almost 100 transfers, their own shot at a job might be higher. granted, maybe they should have thought of that before picking columbia (which is known for a larger than average transfer class), but still.

[CG614]

I really have no idea, as I have no affiliation with CLS. I was mostly just responding to CG614's really bad argument that relied on the assumption that Columbia not only took t4 students, but these cretins were the very people taking "real" Columbia students' jerbs.

Then I looked as his profile and saw he was an 0L about to attend Columbia and it all made sense...

I was just stating that I could see the current student's side of the story. I was using an extreme example that may not even be the case. Calm down people. I don't agree with that viewpoint, but I do feel like CLS does have some responsibility to their current students. So if the economy is making it harder and lessening the incoming transfer class can help, then it should entertain doing so.

EDIT to add: You say you have "no idea" but in your prior post you say "I heard that T4 transfers struck out...". Which is it?

[bizen boat]

I really have no idea, as I have no affiliation with CLS. I was mostly just responding to CG614's really bad argument that relied on the assumption that Columbia not only took t4 students, but these cretins were the very people taking "real" Columbia students' jerbs.

Then I looked as his profile and saw he was an 0L about to attend Columbia and it all made sense...

I was just stating that I could see the current student's side of the story. I was using an extreme example that may not even be the case. Calm down people. I don't agree with that viewpoint, but I do feel like CLS does have some responsibility to their current students. So if the economy is making it harder and lessening the incoming transfer class can help, then it should entertain doing so.

EDIT to add: You say you have "no idea" but in your prior post you say "I heard that T4 transfers struck out...". Which is it?

Both, in a way. I have no real idea because I don't go to CLS. I heard on this forum that lower tier transfers struck out while T25 students did well. If my first post made it seem like I had inside knowledge then I'm sorry. Also, I agree that taking 90+ transfer students is excessive and can see how that may cause tension.

[buxfactor]

When is OCI at CLS?

[mardimar]

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[traydeuce]

ding. yesterday. snail mail.

Harvard took you, Columbia didn't? Maybe it really is a more selective year for Columbia.

[mardimar]

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