2016 Harvard Law School transfer thread Forum

[Joscellin]

Congratulations to everyone admitted.

Please be kind enough to withdraw from schools you will not be attending!

Withdrew from CCN, though I'm still sortof in shock.

Best of luck everyone who's still waiting! Fingers crossed that more people will be accepted tomorrow!

[fp9898]

Have they admitted some people with just an email in the past? Praying that they let a few in tomorrow. 4.0+ at T20 with good LORs and 10 years work experience.. was cautiously optimistic, but not so much anymore.

[habeas2210]

Have they admitted some people with just an email in the past? Praying that they let a few in tomorrow. 4.0+ at T20 with good LORs and 10 years work experience.. was cautiously optimistic, but not so much anymore.

I doubt they got there all 50 calls tonight. (I'm guessing it'll about around 50, give or take).

Considering your stats, you should be good to go. The fact that people like you and pb&j haven't gotten acceptances yet, gives hope for everyone that they will be finishing up calls tomorrow.

[7777777777777777777]

Accepted. ~5% at low T14 via phone call around 7 p.m.

[browniestasty]

My application status still says incomplete. They should have received the missing certifications last week.

I really hope this doesnt mean they just didnt bother reviewing my file.

[Rileyfo]

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[the-american-guy]

Anyone hopeful for today? Or was all hope lost last night?

I tend to agree with habeas2210. I'm not ready to give up hope for today.

[PeanutsNJam]

I stalked through the previous year threads. It's really not as much a numbers game as people say on this forum, because plenty of people in T14 top 5% or T1 top 1% have been rejected. Probably more than those admitted, which means something like top 5% at a T20 definitely has <50% chance. I should've spent more time on application materials, because I made the mistake of thinking they didn't matter that much. I wrote a generic error-free safe personal statement.

It's obviously not impossible for someone to get admitted today or even Monday but I wouldn't hold my breath. It's been on the same day all the way back to like 2012.

Arrow's guide really should be taken down because it's misleading.

[Nebby]

I stalked through the previous year threads. It's really not as much a numbers game as people say on this forum, because plenty of people in T14 top 5% or T1 top 1% have been rejected. Probably more than those admitted, which means something like top 5% at a T20 definitely has <50% chance. I should've spent more time on application materials, because I made the mistake of thinking they didn't matter that much. I wrote a generic error-free safe personal statement.

It's obviously not impossible for someone to get admitted today or even Monday but I wouldn't hold my breath. It's been on the same day all the way back to like 2012.

It's a numbers game, but the applicant pool of qualified applicants is likely about 100 and they only admit 1/2 of that

[habeas2210]

I stalked through the previous year threads. It's really not as much a numbers game as people say on this forum, because plenty of people in T14 top 5% or T1 top 1% have been rejected. Probably more than those admitted, which means something like top 5% at a T20 definitely has <50% chance. I should've spent more time on application materials, because I made the mistake of thinking they didn't matter that much. I wrote a generic error-free safe personal statement.

It's obviously not impossible for someone to get admitted today or even Monday but I wouldn't hold my breath. It's been on the same day all the way back to like 2012.

True. But they also started calls earlier in the past. I bet the remaining few will go out today. And I wouldn't be surprised if you're one of them. Best of luck!

[tebowtime23]

I stalked through the previous year threads. It's really not as much a numbers game as people say on this forum, because plenty of people in T14 top 5% or T1 top 1% have been rejected. Probably more than those admitted, which means something like top 5% at a T20 definitely has <50% chance. I should've spent more time on application materials, because I made the mistake of thinking they didn't matter that much. I wrote a generic error-free safe personal statement.

It's obviously not impossible for someone to get admitted today or even Monday but I wouldn't hold my breath. It's been on the same day all the way back to like 2012.

True. But they also started calls earlier in the past. I bet the remaining few will go out today. And I wouldn't be surprised if you're one of them. Best of luck!

Right - they haven't started calling after 5 before, so there's a fair chance there could be some run-off today or even Monday. But id imagine the vast majority of acceptances have already been given out. There's a small chance a few could come out next Friday, after the acceptances from yesterday have their deposit deadline, but I would doubt that.

[PeanutsNJam]

I appreciate the positivity in this thread haha. I would be happy staying where I am actually, it just sucks to be rejected. I hope you guys get in. You deserve it.

[Rileyfo]

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[zaylla2015]

I suppose someone could call admis and ask if they're all done with acceptances lol *not it*

[robert88]

I stalked through the previous year threads. It's really not as much a numbers game as people say on this forum, because plenty of people in T14 top 5% or T1 top 1% have been rejected. Probably more than those admitted, which means something like top 5% at a T20 definitely has <50% chance. I should've spent more time on application materials, because I made the mistake of thinking they didn't matter that much. I wrote a generic error-free safe personal statement.

It's obviously not impossible for someone to get admitted today or even Monday but I wouldn't hold my breath. It's been on the same day all the way back to like 2012.

Arrow's guide really should be taken down because it's misleading.

Well, PnJ, I do hope you get in. The thing is that Harvard uses a "holistic" admission system. See SAT 2400 is not enough to get into Harvard for asians. See also Fisher v. U Texas.

[tebowtime23]

I suppose someone could call admis and ask if they're all done with acceptances lol *not it*

This person would be a hero. I am not that hero, but someone should be...

[ilikechocolate]

I stalked through the previous year threads. It's really not as much a numbers game as people say on this forum, because plenty of people in T14 top 5% or T1 top 1% have been rejected. Probably more than those admitted, which means something like top 5% at a T20 definitely has <50% chance. I should've spent more time on application materials, because I made the mistake of thinking they didn't matter that much. I wrote a generic error-free safe personal statement.

It's obviously not impossible for someone to get admitted today or even Monday but I wouldn't hold my breath. It's been on the same day all the way back to like 2012.

Arrow's guide really should be taken down because it's misleading.

Well, PnJ, I do hope you get in. The thing is that Harvard uses a "holistic" admission system. See SAT 2400 is not enough to get into Harvard for asians. See also Fisher v. U Texas.

What's harder for me to fathom is that you seem to believe that it should be enough. I don't know about you but I personally do not want to go to a school where everyone that got in is there simply because they figured out how to master an exam through hours of practice. My Ivy League education was vastly enriched by those people that contributed meaningfully to class discussions because they shared viewpoints informed not just through reading and academia, but life experience. You don't have to save the world, but you have to be able to think beyond your textbook and show more than the skill of mastering an exam. If future Harvard grads [or any other school] are to be accomplished individuals that make some sort of impact in society, then a 2400 on an SAT is not the best predictor of that. Just my 2 cents.

[Joscellin]

Let's keep the affirmative action/diversity discussion out of this thread, yeah?

[Dynamite]

What's harder for me to fathom is that you seem to believe that it should be enough. I don't know about you but I personally do not want to go to a school where everyone that got in is there simply because they figured out how to master an exam through hours of practice. My Ivy League education was vastly enriched by those people that contributed meaningfully to class discussions because they shared viewpoints informed not just through reading and academia, but life experience. You don't have to save the world, but you have to be able to think beyond your textbook and show more than the skill of mastering an exam. If future Harvard grads [or any other school] are to be accomplished individuals that make some sort of impact in society, then a 2400 on an SAT is not the best predictor of that. Just my 2 cents.

I'm with you, right on.

I am fortunate to have some incredible softs and unbelievable life experiences to share, and I hoped the Harvard admissions committee would recognize that, but I don't think my T1 top 15% was enough. I'm glad I tried regardless.

[PeanutsNJam]

As much as I agree that no admissions should be numbers based, I'm not so sure everyone who got in is a North Korean refugee and everybody who didn't is a plain k-JD. I worked overseas for two years in a foreign country. Idk, maybe I didn't play that up enough.

Granted, maybe I would have done better if I wrote my PS about something interesting as opposed to why I worked hard in law school and want to transfer. Which is why I think the "it's all numbers" rhetoric needs to stop and people need to actually focus on their softs in an application.

Numbers necessary but not sufficient. That's fair, but people should know that going into their application cycle.

[ilikechocolate]

Let's keep the affirmative action/diversity discussion out of this thread, yeah?

I agree with you and apologize for the rant. Personally not a URM. Just get annoyed when people assume that their classmates/peers that are considered URM were somehow less qualified, or when people in my position get upset that someone with "lesser" stats gets in and they don't, assuming that they were denied for being white (or Asian at Harvard). The transfer game is a different ballgame so stats do matter, but the above poster was referring to college admissions, which I personally think do need to be very holistic given the sheer number of schools and applicants involved.

[robert88]

I stalked through the previous year threads. It's really not as much a numbers game as people say on this forum, because plenty of people in T14 top 5% or T1 top 1% have been rejected. Probably more than those admitted, which means something like top 5% at a T20 definitely has <50% chance. I should've spent more time on application materials, because I made the mistake of thinking they didn't matter that much. I wrote a generic error-free safe personal statement.

It's obviously not impossible for someone to get admitted today or even Monday but I wouldn't hold my breath. It's been on the same day all the way back to like 2012.

Arrow's guide really should be taken down because it's misleading.

Well, PnJ, I do hope you get in. The thing is that Harvard uses a "holistic" admission system. See SAT 2400 is not enough to get into Harvard for asians. See also Fisher v. U Texas.

What's harder for me to fathom is that you seem to believe that it should be enough. I don't know about you but I personally do not want to go to a school where everyone that got in is there simply because they figured out how to master an exam through hours of practice. My Ivy League education was vastly enriched by those people that contributed meaningfully to class discussions because they shared viewpoints informed not just through reading and academia, but life experience. You don't have to save the world, but you have to be able to think beyond your textbook and show more than the skill of mastering an exam. If future Harvard grads [or any other school] are to be accomplished individuals that make some sort of impact in society, then a 2400 on an SAT is not the best predictor of that. Just my 2 cents.

I am not saying it is enough. I am simply pointing out the statistics. What is difficult for me to understand is that you seem to suggest asians somehow are all about mastering an exam, which is quite racist to say the least. Of course your Ivy league education is enriched by diversity. I hope you still feel the same if you were shut out of ivy league simply because of your race.

[YungSlumLord]

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[A. Nony Mouse]

I get that people want to be able to follow up on their original comments or respond, but this is not a thread for AA discussion. Drop the discussion, please.

[tebowtime23]

FWIW, someone from Davis was admitted last night with a less impressive "law school resume" than myself (GPA, awards, 1L summer job)... so I'm still holding out hope today, but it's safe to assume that, as others have indicated, that softs may have been very important for this transfer cycle. I don't have many softs but my understanding is that this person did.

But back to the most important question - does anybody want to call to see if they plan on admitting anyone else, or if last night was it?

EDIT: Let's get this discussion back on track a bit. Some of us are still feverishly refreshing this thread hoping to find a second wave of acceptances has begun.