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[thexfactor]

looks like im done with the transfer game. Just bombed con law prob worse than a b prob c+ or lower. I applied a whole test wrong (lopez commerce clause).

good luck guys

Lopez should only be applied to issues of Congress regulating purely intrastate activities. Under Lopez, they can only do so if there's a "substantial relation" to interstate commerce. That said, I feel like as long as your general argument was solid, it doesn't matter how you apply it--even if you got the outcome wrong (i.e. using Lopez to justify Congress' imposition of a law regulating a purely intrastate activity with no interstate component), the prof will probably realize the confusion.

If you used Lopez to justify a standing issue, however, that's another story.

I misunderstood the question. I thought the question involved whether or not if you apply the law to a fire station would it be valid. The teacher was asking whether or not the law is valid from a general perspective. I used the 5 factors in lopez but I applied it directly to the fact pattern.

[engineer]

I misunderstood the question. I thought the question involved whether or not if you apply the law to a fire station would it be valid. The teacher was asking whether or not the law is valid from a general perspective. I used the 5 factors in lopez but I applied it directly to the fact pattern.

I honestly wouldn't sweat it. Professors know that exams don't simulate real-world constraints; you'll be penalized for answering a different question, no doubt, but I don't think it'll be as severe as, say, someone who drew smiley faces and penises on their exam. That said, as long as you provided a cogent legal analysis of the fact pattern, you'll still get some credit.

[Bonobo]

Anyone from Chicago definitely transferring? Chicago born 'n raised--maybe know one of you at Kent or Loyola or Depaul etc...

[chitown825]

Just as a heads up guys, the "Art of Law School Transfer" book is a total waste of money. 3 pages are about transferring and 100 pages are about getting good grades (which is irrelevant at this point).

[apper123]

Just as a heads up guys, the "Art of Law School Transfer" book is a total waste of money. 3 pages are about transferring and 100 pages are about getting good grades (which is irrelevant at this point).

Yeah, I didn't find that book useful at all.

[chitown825]

Anyone from Chicago definitely transferring? Chicago born 'n raised--maybe know one of you at Kent or Loyola or Depaul etc...

I'm also a lifelong Chicagoan, although I'm currently law school in a neighboring state

[Marie9444]

Random Question,

So basically I (along with quite a few others) went way over the character limit on our exam because it was not indicated whether the limit included spaces or not. Additionally, the software we use has two counters "characters" and "characters w/s", so if you went by the wrong counter you went way over. Well, I was one of those lucky people and apparently now our professor may not read these exams or only part of them.

Are my chances of transferring down the drain if I get a C, D or even an F for this!? I am assuming so but it seems so crazy that spaces could cause such an issue. If I do receive a low grade should I send them my grades anyway with an addendum explaining? (I have been deferred)

Thanks!

[apper123]

Random Question,

So basically I (along with quite a few others) went way over the character limit on our exam because it was not indicated whether the limit included spaces or not. Additionally, the software we use has two counters "characters" and "characters w/s", so if you went by the wrong counter you went way over. Well, I was one of those lucky people and apparently now our professor may not read these exams or only part of them.

Are my chances of transferring down the drain if I get a C, D or even an F for this!? I am assuming so but it seems so crazy that spaces could cause such an issue. If I do receive a low grade should I send them my grades anyway with an addendum explaining? (I have been deferred)

Thanks!

If the professor never indicated what the appropriate limit was on the exam and which metric to use, I'd be shocked if they actually punished you. That seems unbelievably unfair. And who counts spaces in a character limit? Who counts characters at all?

And yes, your chances will get hurt severely with a C and probably be cooked with a D or an F.

[A'nold]

We use exam soft at my school and it automatically stops us w/ a certain amount of characters.

[Marie9444]

Well I wish we used examsoft then...its extremely difficult to be thinking about a "character limit" (which is complete bs) when you are trying to write an exam under time constraints. We use exam 4.

After a bunch of us complained we got an email today saying that he meant for us to include spaces, yet that wasnt indicated on the board in the test room nor on the exam itself anywhere. He is now claiming he mentioned it in class at some point, I never missed a class so I am confused about that as well.

Thanks for the input guys!

[A'nold]

Well I wish we used examsoft then...its extremely difficult to be thinking about a "character limit" (which is complete bs) when you are trying to write an exam under time constraints. We use exam 4.

After a bunch of us complained we got an email today saying that he meant for us to include spaces, yet that wasnt indicated on the board in the test room nor on the exam itself anywhere. He is now claiming he mentioned it in class at some point, I never missed a class so I am confused about that as well.

Thanks for the input guys!

What a dick. It boggles my mind that some of these professors (or at least their policies) are allowed at law schools. It reminds me of how we "don't have a curve" yet all of my section basically curves to a 2.7 yet the other professors in the other section curve to whatever the hell they want (an average of a 3.0 this semester). Stuff like that is so wrong I can't even believe that it exists. Hello? We are LAW STUDENTS and our grades determine the rest of our careers. Professors like your and administrations like mine just crap on that and the students and think only of themselves. Screw them.

Yeah, I normally don't get all serious like this but man this pisses me off.

[apper123]

reason #23421324 why word/character/page limits on law exams are ridiculous

[Big Shrimpin]

reason #23421324 why word/character/page limits on law exams are ridiculous

i mean, the test-day anxiety flowing from memorizing an entire semester of material+grades+employment prospects+the rest of your life isn't such a big deal, right?

word limits...

[Bankhead]

Also completely bombed con and likely won't be transferring. Damn teacher did not teach United Haulers/Davis v. Kentucky but based an entire fact pattern on it...

[270910]

Also completely bombed con and likely won't be transferring. Damn teacher did not teach United Haulers/Davis v. Kentucky but based an entire fact pattern on it...

So? If you learned the cases before them, wasn't it testing your ability to reason and not your ability to copy / predict SCOTUS?

[Zeph]

So question, for those of us who got deferred, do we need to do the writing competition on June 1 in order to be considered for a journal if we get accepted later in the summer?

[Lawl Shcool]

So question, for those of us who got deferred, do we need to do the writing competition on June 1 in order to be considered for a journal if we get accepted later in the summer?

+1 on this question

[Bankhead]

Also completely bombed con and likely won't be transferring. Damn teacher did not teach United Haulers/Davis v. Kentucky but based an entire fact pattern on it...

So? If you learned the cases before them, wasn't it testing your ability to reason and not your ability to copy / predict SCOTUS?

Actually, that's exactly what he does. He gives us a prior case (usually appellate level not SCOTUS and not a hypothetical) and grades based on how close we get to the court's actual opinion...

They were squibs in our book, so it was fair game. The people who happened to pull them out will do well. It rewards people who actually read the casebook instead of just Chemerinsky, since being such recent cases they haven't made it into Chem.

I just failed to do that.

[kings84_wr]

Also completely bombed con and likely won't be transferring. Damn teacher did not teach United Haulers/Davis v. Kentucky but based an entire fact pattern on it...

So? If you learned the cases before them, wasn't it testing your ability to reason and not your ability to copy / predict SCOTUS?

Actually, that's exactly what he does. He gives us a prior case (usually appellate level not SCOTUS and not a hypothetical) and grades based on how close we get to the court's actual opinion...

They were squibs in our book, so it was fair game. The people who happened to pull them out will do well. It rewards people who actually read the casebook instead of just Chemerinsky, since being such recent cases they haven't made it into Chem.

I just failed to do that.

To be fair though dude, just about everyone Ive talked to in your guys class seemed to think htey bombed

[kings84_wr]

So question, for those of us who got deferred, do we need to do the writing competition on June 1 in order to be considered for a journal if we get accepted later in the summer?

+1 on this question

I think july 19th is the last day to have a week, so you should be able to write on after admission likely.

[LW2010]

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[newyorker69]

Still no word and have been under review since 4/20...

Are the first round of deposits due today or next Monday?

they're due next monday the 10th

[kings84_wr]

Changed back to complete lol

[A'nold]

Changed back to complete lol

Me too, on 5/3.

[Bankhead]

Same. It's like midnight passed and I turned back into a pumpkin...