FML - Cali Schools 2013 Forum

[Inygma]

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[Cavalier]

What isn't wrong with California.

[Inygma]

What isn't wrong with California.

USD and their schollys are looking mighty good.

[rondemarino]

What isn't wrong with California.

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[legends159]

Non-resident students should either get into Stanford or stay the hell out of California.

the elitism really drools from Elie sometimes.

I mean, what about USC?

[Inygma]

Non-resident students should either get into Stanford or stay the hell out of California.

Unfortunately this is starting to seem to apply to us in-staters also

[Cavalier]

Non-resident students should either get into Stanford or stay the hell out of California.

the elitism really drools from Elie sometimes.

I mean, what about USC?

That would require being associated with the Trojans. Which, of course, is a terrible idea.

[oneforship]

What isn't wrong with California.

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good point

[98234872348]

Does it strike anyone else as ironic that the schools (well, Berkeley at least) are increasing tuition costs so that they can expand their LRAP offerings?

[Inygma]

Does it strike anyone else as ironic that the schools (well, Berkeley at least) are increasing tuition costs so that they can expand their LRAP offerings?

I was thinking that also, but what it sounds like to me is that the school is going to accept people that are willing to pay ticket price (those people who are at the median or below) and then grant the extra money to those that are above median. This way the school is getting more tuition without looking like a total moneysucker. So where in '09 you had people paying lets say $40k ticket, and those above were paying lets say $35k, the school bumps it to $50k, gives a $10k grant to those that did ok, so those are paying $40k, and since they used the money from the person who payed$50k, its like they had a steady stream of $40k tuition.

It's all a bunch of BS imo

[MC Southstar]

They should just accept more students That's not economically sound either though, oh well.

[General Tso]

They should just accept more students That's not economically sound either though, oh well.

Oh you mean the Hastings approach? Right...

[Inygma]

They should just accept more students That's not economically sound either though, oh well.

Oh you mean the Hastings approach? Right...

LOL

[LvingLegend]

I was really hoping to stay in California. Oh well.

[johnstuartmill]

Does it strike anyone else as ironic that the schools (well, Berkeley at least) are increasing tuition costs so that they can expand their LRAP offerings?

Not at all. Why should the government subsidize the tuition of students who will be making a lot of money after they graduate, and not producing a lot of public benefit? The low UC law school tuition of yore was a giveaway to people who patently didn't need it. It makes a lot more sense to raise tuition for everybody, thus generating cash to blunt the debt load of alumni working in the public or non-profit sectors, who presumably will be underpaid compared to the amount of social benefit they create. Gotta internalize that externality, yo.

[Inygma]

Does it strike anyone else as ironic that the schools (well, Berkeley at least) are increasing tuition costs so that they can expand their LRAP offerings?

Not at all. Why should the government subsidize the tuition of students who will be making a lot of money after they graduate, and not producing a lot of public benefit? The low UC law school tuition of yore was a giveaway to people who patently didn't need it. It makes a lot more sense to raise tuition for everybody, thus generating cash to give to public servant and non-profit alumni, who presumably will be underpaid compared to the amount of social benefit they create. Gotta internalize that externality, yo.

Davis is increasing tuition, but raising financial aid also. The thing is, just about any Tier 1 school will have plenty of applicants who will be willing to pay full price tuition. I view this as accepting a bit more less qualified (on numbers alone) to pay full tuition and then give a bunch more financial aid to people with average/better than average numbers. This will allow the school to operate with the new f*d budget and allow students with decent numbers to attend the school at about the same price as last year.

[bloodonthetracks]

i recommend reading the article on UC in last week's New Yorker

[johnstuartmill]

Does it strike anyone else as ironic that the schools (well, Berkeley at least) are increasing tuition costs so that they can expand their LRAP offerings?

Not at all. Why should the government subsidize the tuition of students who will be making a lot of money after they graduate, and not producing a lot of public benefit? The low UC law school tuition of yore was a giveaway to people who patently didn't need it. It makes a lot more sense to raise tuition for everybody, thus generating cash to give to public servant and non-profit alumni, who presumably will be underpaid compared to the amount of social benefit they create. Gotta internalize that externality, yo.

Davis is increasing tuition, but raising financial aid also. The thing is, just about any Tier 1 school will have plenty of applicants who will be willing to pay full price tuition. I view this as accepting a bit more less qualified (on numbers alone) to pay full tuition and then give a bunch more financial aid to people with average/better than average numbers. This will allow the school to operate with the new f*d budget and allow students with decent numbers to attend the school at about the same price as last year.

We're talking about different things. I was responding to a post about a national school's (i.e., lots of out-of-state tuition payers anyway) expansion of LRAP, not about a good regional school's possible USNWR gaming.

[jks289]

What isn't wrong with California.

I'm sitting at my office in Santa Monica. It's January 4th and a sunny, breezy 73 degrees. Yesterday it was almost 80 out so we walked on the beach. Nothing wrong with that, my friend.

[johnstuartmill]

What isn't wrong with California.

I'm sitting at my office in Santa Monica. It's January 4th and a sunny, breezy 73 degrees. Yesterday it was almost 80 out so we walked on the beach. Nothing wrong with that, my friend.

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