Could LARW be more comparable to academic legal writing than it is to the writing one would do in the actual practice of law?Bosque wrote:It is most definitely not. Legal writing will never again be like LARW. For LARW, the stress is on the form (citations, argument structure, headings, ect.). In REAL legal writing, so long as the form is proficient at getting your point across no one cares about it. What everyone actually cares about then is the substance and creativity of the writing. Which is not at all what you are graded for in LARW. In fact, your professor flat out tells you what the substance of the writing needs to be. If you do actually try and be creative, the best you can expect is a pat on the head in the form of a comment. It won't help your grade.los blancos wrote:I like LARW. I feel it's the important class. And I actually kind of enjoy the work. Though my first assignment really sucked.thickfreakness wrote:I'm already getting annoyed at the workload of LARW relative to my other classes.
I thought I was going to hate writing memos for work after going through legal writing. Turns out it is actually fun.
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Torts!?!?someones alt wrote:I actually briefed the cases for property and civil procedure (just from the intro assignments) and it helped me understand everything a lot better. I'll probably do the same for torts tonight if I can't sleep.

Guess I better do Civ Pro briefs as well just so I don't fall behind. That is if Pearland hurries up and gets 2 more runs to sends these New English scrubs to the loser's bracket of the littleleague world series (just another instance of Texas domination--my hometown none the less!).
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I think I'm going to listen to what the professors say about the cases before I start briefing them. I just feel it'd be pointless to brief these first ones.
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Leadmentor just sent out some of his briefs as an example. Not really the confidence booster or the workable example I had hoped for. v8 & bosque, willing to do the same for comparison purposes? jew27@duke.edu
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Please share which city in Texas never receives rain 

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Crap! I forgot to turn in my honor code sheet!
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Honor Code sheet? The first rule of the Duke Honor Code sheet is you DO NOT talk about the Duke Honor Code sheet.Jericwithers wrote:Crap! I forgot to turn in my honor code sheet!It was nice meeting you all...
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LOL, actually the first part of the sheet is agreeing that you have read the sheet....which you have obviously not done......poprox wrote:Honor Code sheet? The first rule of the Duke Honor Code sheet is you DO NOT talk about the Duke Honor Code sheet.Jericwithers wrote:Crap! I forgot to turn in my honor code sheet!It was nice meeting you all...

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haha i didn't turn it in either 

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Yes! Heading to campus now to stake out the office in order to out you when you turn in your form.los blancos wrote:haha i didn't turn it in either
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I'm going to scan and e-mail it to them just to spite you.Jericwithers wrote:Yes! Heading to campus now to stake out the office in order to out you when you turn in your form.los blancos wrote:haha i didn't turn it in either
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In that case, see you in ConLawlos blancos wrote:I'm going to scan and e-mail it to them just to spite you.Jericwithers wrote:Yes! Heading to campus now to stake out the office in order to out you when you turn in your form.los blancos wrote:haha i didn't turn it in either

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I kind of did mine differently than most, sooo....PM me if you still want to take a look? I'm not sure that mine will be very helpful, but I'd be glad to send it to you.Jericwithers wrote:Leadmentor just sent out some of his briefs as an example. Not really the confidence booster or the workable example I had hoped for. v8 & bosque, willing to do the same for comparison purposes? [redacted]
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I will say this: in my opinion, the point of briefing is to (1) have something to jog your memory about the case and (2) help yourself learn and retain the important parts of the case. Because of this, form itself isn't really as important as finding something that works for you.
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Why is there absolutely no place to get food after midnight other than waffle house?
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This is from a review of a torts hornbook on Amazon; you can't make this stuff up:
This is biased, pro-plaintiff, and hard to follow. It is a self-justifying, defender of the out of control legal profession. Only 60 pages are devoted to the defense. There is nary a word, beyond brief dismissal, of the devastation wrought upon our besieged Nation by the profession. There is nary a word about changing the unconscionable 80% error rate in tort litigation. There is nary a word about the wackiness that passes for judicial decision making, mind reading, fortune telling, etc.
If you have poor vision, good luck. A very large fraction of the text, often the most important point, is in tiny font in the footnotes. Its physical content discriminates against anyone with poor vision or who is out their twenties. The language is filled with double negatives, inscrutable constructions, undefined latin phrases. Is English the native language of either the author or his editor? My 7th grade English teacher would have made the author stand in the corner.
Memo to the editor: ban footnotes containing more than a reference. Ban double negatives. Take an English as a second language course, for Pete's sake.
This is biased, pro-plaintiff, and hard to follow. It is a self-justifying, defender of the out of control legal profession. Only 60 pages are devoted to the defense. There is nary a word, beyond brief dismissal, of the devastation wrought upon our besieged Nation by the profession. There is nary a word about changing the unconscionable 80% error rate in tort litigation. There is nary a word about the wackiness that passes for judicial decision making, mind reading, fortune telling, etc.
If you have poor vision, good luck. A very large fraction of the text, often the most important point, is in tiny font in the footnotes. Its physical content discriminates against anyone with poor vision or who is out their twenties. The language is filled with double negatives, inscrutable constructions, undefined latin phrases. Is English the native language of either the author or his editor? My 7th grade English teacher would have made the author stand in the corner.
Memo to the editor: ban footnotes containing more than a reference. Ban double negatives. Take an English as a second language course, for Pete's sake.
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Carolina Ale House?los blancos wrote:Why is there absolutely no place to get food after midnight other than waffle house?
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Well, that went by fast.
Aargh I'm an idiot. That's right. I like that place. I wonder if they do carryout. Has anyone ever had their wings?

prezidentv8 wrote:Carolina Ale House?los blancos wrote:Why is there absolutely no place to get food after midnight other than waffle house?
Aargh I'm an idiot. That's right. I like that place. I wonder if they do carryout. Has anyone ever had their wings?
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If you use yelp you can sort by location, quality, and whether a restaurant is open.los blancos wrote:Well, that went by fast.![]()
prezidentv8 wrote:Carolina Ale House?los blancos wrote:Why is there absolutely no place to get food after midnight other than waffle house?
Aargh I'm an idiot. That's right. I like that place. I wonder if they do carryout. Has anyone ever had their wings?
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Ugh, you're already done? I'm here till 5. I miss all the prime napping hours in the afternoon.los blancos wrote:Well, that went by fast.![]()

Did you drop by your honor pledge to the box? I guess I won't get kicked out after all.
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TLSers owned CivPro today. Everyone, be proud.
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haha, rep points go to someonesalt. Weirdly you know us but I don't know you yetpelmen74 wrote:TLSers owned CivPro today. Everyone, be proud.

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I tried to introduce myself, but circumstances have not allowed for it. I'll say hi Tmrw in LARW. Not trying to be a creep, but your SN is too obvious.Jericwithers wrote:haha, rep points go to someonesalt. Weirdly you know us but I don't know you yetpelmen74 wrote:TLSers owned CivPro today. Everyone, be proud.
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Nah, I don't finish until 4. I actually like my schedule. I've never had class at any level of schooling go by as fast as it did today. Maybe going to lawl school was the right decision after all...Jericwithers wrote:Ugh, you're already done? I'm here till 5. I miss all the prime napping hours in the afternoon.los blancos wrote:Well, that went by fast.![]()
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Did you drop by your honor pledge to the box? I guess I won't get kicked out after all.
Yeah, took care of that.
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Does anyone know if there's a working online student directory? I'm trying to contact the people in my LARW group and I don't know what to do save for sending emails to "firstname.lastname@duke.edu" and seeing if that works. When I tried accessing the directory (http://www.law.duke.edu/studir), I was kicked to a "Denied" screen.
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thecubiclelife wrote:Does anyone know if there's a working online student directory? I'm trying to contact the people in my LARW group and I don't know what to do save for sending emails to "firstname.lastname@duke.edu" and seeing if that works. When I tried accessing the directory (http://www.law.duke.edu/studir), I was kicked to a "Denied" screen.
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You must be in my section. I think.
The directory isn't working for me either.
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