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Re: Serving Time in Ithaca (Cornell 2013)

Post by danidancer » Tue Jul 06, 2010 12:00 pm

alexyoshi wrote:latest financial aid conundrum:

my latest bill reflects the stafford loan credits but not the grad PLUS loans. pretty sure that I filed everything necessary except...

the "federal verification worksheet," which seems irrelevant since it seems to be for independents and I couldn't get that status, and

the "educational purpose statement," something that I can find absolutely no information on anywhere.

I did the promissory note, the counseling, and the PLUS application. is this one of those things that just takes awhile to show up?
Where are you finding your bill?

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Re: Serving Time in Ithaca (Cornell 2013)

Post by CyLaw » Tue Jul 06, 2010 12:12 pm

alexyoshi wrote:latest financial aid conundrum:

my latest bill reflects the stafford loan credits but not the grad PLUS loans. pretty sure that I filed everything necessary except...

the "federal verification worksheet," which seems irrelevant since it seems to be for independents and I couldn't get that status, and

the "educational purpose statement," something that I can find absolutely no information on anywhere.

I did the promissory note, the counseling, and the PLUS application. is this one of those things that just takes awhile to show up?
You'll still need to do the federal verification worksheet. For Cornell you are dependent when determining need based aid (institutional aid), but for Federal loans you are independent as you are a grad student. Two separate statuses and the worksheet applies to the federal one.

Other than that, if you submitted the PLUS paperwork to the law schools finaid office with the correct amount listed and did so a while ago, I would give finaid a call or send them an email.

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Re: Serving Time in Ithaca (Cornell 2013)

Post by CyLaw » Tue Jul 06, 2010 12:14 pm

danidancer wrote:
alexyoshi wrote:latest financial aid conundrum:

my latest bill reflects the stafford loan credits but not the grad PLUS loans. pretty sure that I filed everything necessary except...

the "federal verification worksheet," which seems irrelevant since it seems to be for independents and I couldn't get that status, and

the "educational purpose statement," something that I can find absolutely no information on anywhere.

I did the promissory note, the counseling, and the PLUS application. is this one of those things that just takes awhile to show up?
Where are you finding your bill?
http://jtf.cornell.edu/ which is not actually the bill but the finaid account portal for Cornell proper

But I would avoid checking that really. The bill is not actually ready, and it will just freak you out that it says you don't have steps done, when really they just haven't updated the checklist yet.

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Post by vexion » Tue Jul 06, 2010 12:16 pm

I won't be moving in till the 15th (or thereabouts,) but if anyone needs help moving in, I'll be around after that.

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Re: Serving Time in Ithaca (Cornell 2013)

Post by alexyoshi » Tue Jul 06, 2010 12:27 pm

CyLaw wrote:
alexyoshi wrote:latest financial aid conundrum:

my latest bill reflects the stafford loan credits but not the grad PLUS loans. pretty sure that I filed everything necessary except...

the "federal verification worksheet," which seems irrelevant since it seems to be for independents and I couldn't get that status, and

the "educational purpose statement," something that I can find absolutely no information on anywhere.

I did the promissory note, the counseling, and the PLUS application. is this one of those things that just takes awhile to show up?
You'll still need to do the federal verification worksheet. For Cornell you are dependent when determining need based aid (institutional aid), but for Federal loans you are independent as you are a grad student. Two separate statuses and the worksheet applies to the federal one.

Other than that, if you submitted the PLUS paperwork to the law schools finaid office with the correct amount listed and did so a while ago, I would give finaid a call or send them an email.
thanks! appreciate the info. I just sent a quick email to the office since there were at least 10 people ahead of me over the phone. anyone got anything on the "educational purpose statement?"

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Re: Serving Time in Ithaca (Cornell 2013)

Post by jks289 » Tue Jul 06, 2010 12:52 pm

alexyoshi wrote:
CyLaw wrote:
alexyoshi wrote:latest financial aid conundrum:

my latest bill reflects the stafford loan credits but not the grad PLUS loans. pretty sure that I filed everything necessary except...

the "federal verification worksheet," which seems irrelevant since it seems to be for independents and I couldn't get that status, and

the "educational purpose statement," something that I can find absolutely no information on anywhere.

I did the promissory note, the counseling, and the PLUS application. is this one of those things that just takes awhile to show up?
You'll still need to do the federal verification worksheet. For Cornell you are dependent when determining need based aid (institutional aid), but for Federal loans you are independent as you are a grad student. Two separate statuses and the worksheet applies to the federal one.

Other than that, if you submitted the PLUS paperwork to the law schools finaid office with the correct amount listed and did so a while ago, I would give finaid a call or send them an email.
thanks! appreciate the info. I just sent a quick email to the office since there were at least 10 people ahead of me over the phone. anyone got anything on the "educational purpose statement?"

edit -- found it: --LinkRemoved--
If we only plan on taking Staffords and no Plus loans, do we need to do anything beyond the EPS, Promissary, and entrance counseling?

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Re: Serving Time in Ithaca (Cornell 2013)

Post by spaacecdt » Wed Jul 07, 2010 1:41 am

alexyoshi wrote:
CyLaw wrote:
alexyoshi wrote:latest financial aid conundrum:

my latest bill reflects the stafford loan credits but not the grad PLUS loans. pretty sure that I filed everything necessary except...

the "federal verification worksheet," which seems irrelevant since it seems to be for independents and I couldn't get that status, and

the "educational purpose statement," something that I can find absolutely no information on anywhere.

I did the promissory note, the counseling, and the PLUS application. is this one of those things that just takes awhile to show up?
You'll still need to do the federal verification worksheet. For Cornell you are dependent when determining need based aid (institutional aid), but for Federal loans you are independent as you are a grad student. Two separate statuses and the worksheet applies to the federal one.

Other than that, if you submitted the PLUS paperwork to the law schools finaid office with the correct amount listed and did so a while ago, I would give finaid a call or send them an email.
thanks! appreciate the info. I just sent a quick email to the office since there were at least 10 people ahead of me over the phone. anyone got anything on the "educational purpose statement?"

edit -- found it: --LinkRemoved--
Does everyone who is taking out Stafford and PLUS have to fill out an EPS? I didn't and finaid office said that I needn't turn in any other paperwork...

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Re: Serving Time in Ithaca (Cornell 2013)

Post by turkishangora » Wed Jul 07, 2010 12:18 pm

where can we see the july bill/financial aid process?

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Post by mec30 » Wed Jul 07, 2010 4:16 pm

I didn't do an EPS either.

But I did do entrance counseling, the promissory note, fed verification worksheet (with the attached tax return), and the graduate plus loan application.

Btw, did anyone notice the subtle math problem on the graduate plus form? It says you can add an additional 2.5% percent to cover the origination charge, but to truly cover the original amount you need to subtract 2% from the pre-fee amount and not add 2% to the award amount. They messed it up on my financial aid page (I get $20 less than awarded - lol), but I wrote it correctly on my sheet.

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Re: Serving Time in Ithaca (Cornell 2013)

Post by mec30 » Wed Jul 07, 2010 6:32 pm

I just realized you could figure out my entire financial aid package just from the information I posted above. Don't care enough to change it though.

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Post by acdisagod » Thu Jul 08, 2010 4:01 pm

Anyone in Hughes getting a mealplan?

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Post by ArchRoark » Thu Jul 08, 2010 4:06 pm

js87 wrote:Does anyone know the likelihood of getting merit scholarship money with a 171/3.75 but high family income? I was told by the admissions office that merit based aid is calculated with financial aid; it sounded like your financial situation may influence their merit aid decisions.

I'd love to go to Cornell, but I was not invited to apply for the Dean's Scholarship and my family's income is high enough so that I seriously doubt that I'll receive any financial aid. My parents, however, cannot and will not contribute anything to my law school education. It seems unfair that their income, even if it has no bearing on my ability to pay, determines whether or not I qualify for aid :|
Are you claimed as a dependent on their tax returns? If you are... and they aren't helping you out... tell them to quit. IIRC as long as you are not claimed as a dependent you can fill out FAFSA with only your income. Don't most schools just go off the FAFSA report?

My brother was a similiar situation... when he filed FAFSA as a non-dependent he received a bunch of money.

EDIT: I just realized I quoted a post from the first page on a 48 page thread. Pro

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Post by CyLaw » Thu Jul 08, 2010 4:57 pm

acdisagod wrote:Anyone in Hughes getting a mealplan?
I am not. Too expensive and inconvenient.

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Re: Serving Time in Ithaca (Cornell 2013)

Post by calicocat » Thu Jul 08, 2010 5:29 pm

acdisagod wrote:Anyone in Hughes getting a mealplan?
Me, cause I will likely forget to eat and die otherwise.

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Re: Cornell 2013

Post by mec30 » Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:06 pm

Tiva wrote:
js87 wrote:Does anyone know the likelihood of getting merit scholarship money with a 171/3.75 but high family income? I was told by the admissions office that merit based aid is calculated with financial aid; it sounded like your financial situation may influence their merit aid decisions.

I'd love to go to Cornell, but I was not invited to apply for the Dean's Scholarship and my family's income is high enough so that I seriously doubt that I'll receive any financial aid. My parents, however, cannot and will not contribute anything to my law school education. It seems unfair that their income, even if it has no bearing on my ability to pay, determines whether or not I qualify for aid :|
Are you claimed as a dependent on their tax returns? If you are... and they aren't helping you out... tell them to quit. IIRC as long as you are not claimed as a dependent you can fill out FAFSA with only your income. Don't most schools just go off the FAFSA report?

My brother was a similiar situation... when he filed FAFSA as a non-dependent he received a bunch of money.

EDIT: I just realized I quoted a post from the first page on a 48 page thread. Pro
The school asks for you to send in your parent's tax returns even if your not a dependent.

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Post by legallybrunette16 » Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:54 pm

calicocat wrote: Me, cause I will likely forget to eat and die otherwise.
which one?

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Post by amichig » Fri Jul 09, 2010 1:05 pm

Does anyone know if we need to "Request PLUS Loan" on http://www.studentloans.gov as well as completing the Paper Grad Plus Loan App (the one that is sent directly to Cornell)? Also you just do the entrance counseling once for Stafford and Plus, right?

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Re: Serving Time in Ithaca (Cornell 2013)

Post by let/them/eat/cake » Fri Jul 09, 2010 4:58 pm

FTR, i really hope you all are a cool bunch of kids, because there are some real winners in the class above us, let me tell you.

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Post by AdamatUCF » Fri Jul 09, 2010 8:47 pm

amichig wrote:Does anyone know if we need to "Request PLUS Loan" on http://www.studentloans.gov as well as completing the Paper Grad Plus Loan App (the one that is sent directly to Cornell)? Also you just do the entrance counseling once for Stafford and Plus, right?
I tried to apply online for the loans and it said the school wasn't accepting that year (10-11).

So I guess the paper form is sufficient. And necessary. :lol:

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Post by calicocat » Fri Jul 09, 2010 11:03 pm

let/them/eat/cake wrote:FTR, i really hope you all are a cool bunch of kids, because there are some real winners in the class above us, let me tell you.
Hope you're cool....

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Post by AdamatUCF » Fri Jul 09, 2010 11:15 pm

calicocat wrote:
let/them/eat/cake wrote:FTR, i really hope you all are a cool bunch of kids, because there are some real winners in the class above us, let me tell you.
Hope you're cool....
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Re: Serving Time in Ithaca (Cornell 2013)

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Be there or be square.

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como wrote:Spinellafest III

Be there or be square.
I'll own you at beer pong, my friend.

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calicocat wrote:
como wrote:Spinellafest III

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