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Are you a senior associate or counsel at a midlaw or litigation boutique? Get in here please.

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Dec 20, 2023 9:23 pm

Burned out litigator here with 8-12 years of big law experience and a fed clerkship plus DOJ trial experience.

Want to hear about the greener pastures. Whats your day to day like and what do you get paid relative to your market's big law?


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Post by Anonymous User » Sat Dec 23, 2023 1:03 am

MidLaw second year litigation partner.

Total comp was $450k

Billed 1800, $200k originations.

Highest paid this year was $1.7M

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Post by Anonymous User » Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:02 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Sat Dec 23, 2023 1:03 am
MidLaw second year litigation partner.

Total comp was $450k

Billed 1800, $200k originations.

Highest paid this year was $1.7M

Secondary market?

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Post by Anonymous User » Sat Dec 23, 2023 3:30 pm

I guess? Not la, sf, nyc, dc, Houston, Chicago, or Boston.

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Post by Anonymous User » Sat Dec 23, 2023 6:46 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Sat Dec 23, 2023 1:03 am
MidLaw second year litigation partner.

Total comp was $450k

Billed 1800, $200k originations.

Highest paid this year was $1.7M
Thank you! OP here.

Have you worked in big law before? If so, how does it compare?

How much nonbillable time are you putting in (generating business, marketing work, firm citizenship) on top of the 1800?

What kinds of disputes are you working on? Litigating against other mid sized firms? Big firms? Small plaintiffs?

I'm sorry to turn this into an AMA that you didn't ask for :P

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Post by Anonymous User » Sat Dec 23, 2023 11:59 pm

Have not worked in BigLaw. Maybe 200-300 other hours of marketing/firm stuff.

Most disputes are 8-figure to mid-9-figure. Same clients as BigLaw.

It’s a good living and I get all the good/bad that comes with being an equity partner. Most all my buddies have washed out of BigLaw by now.

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Post by Anonymous User » Sun Dec 24, 2023 8:39 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Sat Dec 23, 2023 11:59 pm
Have not worked in BigLaw. Maybe 200-300 other hours of marketing/firm stuff.

Most disputes are 8-figure to mid-9-figure. Same clients as BigLaw.

It’s a good living and I get all the good/bad that comes with being an equity partner. Most all my buddies have washed out of BigLaw by now.
Do you ever feel jaded representing the same clients as biglaw and in the same matters... but then not getting paid big law? How do you justify that to yourself?

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Post by Anonymous User » Sun Dec 24, 2023 10:20 pm

I don’t? You can’t win the comparison game. Someone will always be making more than you.

I make decent money, like my job (as far as a job goes), and can’t get fired unless a bunch of my friends vote me out.

In a few years I should be in the $650k neighborhood.

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Post by Anonymous User » Tue Jan 23, 2024 1:21 pm

To the second year litigation partner: What does billing 1800 actually look like at your level? And how much nonbillable work are you doing? Especially to generate that 200k originations.

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