2023 Pre-OCI Megathread Forum

[Anonymous User]

Thought I'd add a thread to post pre-OCI happenings/timelines/advice.

I'll start - have a Weil NYC callback coming up next week, applied 6/3.

[Anonymous User]

Thought I'd add a thread to post pre-OCI happenings/timelines/advice.

I'll start - have a Weil NYC callback coming up next week, applied 6/3.

When did you get the callback invite?

[Anonymous User]

Thought I'd add a thread to post pre-OCI happenings/timelines/advice.

I'll start - have a Weil NYC callback coming up next week, applied 6/3.

Can we throw down some super general parameters on applicant characteristics like school range and grade range? Would be helpful to see where firms are looking since pre-OCI is crazy opaque

[Anonymous User]

This is OP - touch above median at a lower T14. Got the CB invite 6/7.

[Anonymous User]

Is Pre-OCI a waste of time for me? T25, well above median but school doesn't rank. I know I'm not top 10% though (which is the only rankings "band" provided). Trying to leverage networking but wondering if cold applying is worth the time.

Interested in NYC and Dallas/Houston, have strong ties to all. Just don't know if or where I'd be competitive since i'm first gen/CDO tries to funnel people in regular OCI so isn't helpful.

[Anonymous User]

Is Pre-OCI a waste of time for me? T25, well above median but school doesn't rank. I know I'm not top 10% though (which is the only rankings "band" provided). Trying to leverage networking but wondering if cold applying is worth the time.

Interested in NYC and Dallas/Houston, have strong ties to all. Just don't know if or where I'd be competitive since i'm first gen/CDO tries to funnel people in regular OCI so isn't helpful.

Yes, do pre-OCI. You might be able to apply via diversity apps too if you have a compelling first gen story. I think people should think of OCI now as the backup plan, not the main event (based on my experience as a rising 3L). Think of it as where you get to talk to firms you didn’t get responses to via online apps if you still want to. I know people who struck out last year because they didn’t do pre-OCI and it will be even more common this year for people who are not proactive about the process.

[Anonymous User]

Is Pre-OCI a waste of time for me? T25, well above median but school doesn't rank. I know I'm not top 10% though (which is the only rankings "band" provided). Trying to leverage networking but wondering if cold applying is worth the time.

Interested in NYC and Dallas/Houston, have strong ties to all. Just don't know if or where I'd be competitive since i'm first gen/CDO tries to funnel people in regular OCI so isn't helpful.

Yes, do pre-OCI. You might be able to apply via diversity apps too if you have a compelling first gen story. I think people should think of OCI now as the backup plan, not the main event (based on my experience as a rising 3L). Think of it as where you get to talk to firms you didn’t get responses to via online apps if you still want to. I know people who struck out last year because they didn’t do pre-OCI and it will be even more common this year for people who are not proactive about the process.

Exactly right. OCI is the after-party, and pre-OCI is the party. Times have changed.

[Anonymous User]

Is Pre-OCI a waste of time for me? T25, well above median but school doesn't rank. I know I'm not top 10% though (which is the only rankings "band" provided). Trying to leverage networking but wondering if cold applying is worth the time.

Interested in NYC and Dallas/Houston, have strong ties to all. Just don't know if or where I'd be competitive since i'm first gen/CDO tries to funnel people in regular OCI so isn't helpful.

Yes, do pre-OCI. You might be able to apply via diversity apps too if you have a compelling first gen story. I think people should think of OCI now as the backup plan, not the main event (based on my experience as a rising 3L). Think of it as where you get to talk to firms you didn’t get responses to via online apps if you still want to. I know people who struck out last year because they didn’t do pre-OCI and it will be even more common this year for people who are not proactive about the process.

Exactly right. OCI is the after-party, and pre-OCI is the party. Times have changed.

As someone who graduated this year and secured 1L and 2L SA positions at different firms exclusively through pre-OCI, you would be doing yourself a disservice if you didn't apply pre-OCI. It seems that OCI now is the backup option in case you don't secure something during pre-OCI (and note that the backup option will be significantly limited because so many firms are filling up their incoming classes before OCI even starts).

It sucks but the entire schedule for hiring has gone out the window for the most part. You need to be applying now to secure SA for next summer.

[Anonymous User]

Has Debevoise opened apps for the summer? Doesnt seem like it bases on their website but maybe Im wrong...

[Anonymous User]

Median at lower t14:CB at PW, Simpson, Weil / Screener at Wilson Sonsini. Between NY and SF markets.

[Anonymous User]

Median at T14:

Callbacks at Simpson, Morgan Lewis, Weil, Kirkland. All NYC.

[Anonymous User]

Median at T14:

Callbacks at Simpson, Morgan Lewis, Weil, Kirkland. All NYC.

When did you apply ?

[Anonymous User]

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[Anonymous User]

T14 Top 5-10% Litigation Focused (all NY)

CBs (all straight to CB/no screener)
DPW -> offer
Debevoise -> offer
STB -> offer
Paul, Weiss
Mayer Brown

Screeners:
Cravath
Latham
White & Case -> Callback
Hogan Lovells

[andywang1197]

DPW told me they’d send out decisions early next week.

[Anonymous User]

Has anyone gotten or heard of a DPW offer yet?

just got DPW offer today after a callback on Monday. (Milbank, too, on same timeline.) Similar profile to yours except want transactional

[Anonymous User]

Is DC moving particularly slowly? or does it usually lag behind NYC?

[Anonymous User]

Is DC moving particularly slowly? or does it usually lag behind NYC?

DC tends to move slower

[Dg21]

Has anyone gotten or heard of a DPW offer yet?

just got DPW offer today after a callback on Monday. (Milbank, too, on same timeline.) Similar profile to yours except want transactional

Congrats on the offers! By the same timeline, do you mean that you interviewed with Milbank on Monday as well?

[Anonymous User]

Has anyone gotten or heard of a DPW offer yet?

just got DPW offer today after a callback on Monday. (Milbank, too, on same timeline.) Similar profile to yours except want transactional

By the same timeline, do you mean that your callback with Milbank also took place on Monday?

[Anonymous User]

Has anyone gotten or heard of a DPW offer yet?

just got DPW offer today after a callback on Monday. (Milbank, too, on same timeline.) Similar profile to yours except want transactional

Congrats! I had my CB on Tuesday. Hoping that's not a bad sign...

[spikesjb]

Screener at Skadden last tuesday -- did not make callback
CB at STB this thursday -- have not heard back yet
Virtual CB at Ropes next thursday
Screener at Kirkland next tuesday

Will continue to update

t3, ranked 8th in class, six years work experience

[Anonymous User]

Has anyone gotten or heard of a DPW offer yet?

just got DPW offer today after a callback on Monday. (Milbank, too, on same timeline.) Similar profile to yours except want transactional

Congrats on the offers! By the same timeline, do you mean that you interviewed with Milbank on Monday as well?

Has anyone gotten or heard of a DPW offer yet?

just got DPW offer today after a callback on Monday. (Milbank, too, on same timeline.) Similar profile to yours except want transactional

By the same timeline, do you mean that your callback with Milbank also took place on Monday?

yes

[Anonymous User]

How long has it taken for firms to offer callbacks after screeners? (For example: Cravath, Skadden, Wachtell)

[spikesjb]

Very eager to hear of any STB offer