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Feasibility of moving from TX to NYC/DC

Post by Anonymous User » Sun Jan 22, 2023 3:35 pm

Any advice for a second-year associate looking to move from a TX market to NYC/DC? I am a second year finance associate at a regional TX firm. I started as a big law litigator, but moved to the regional firm after 18 months because I wanted to change to transactional work. I've spent my entire life in Texas, and I am starting to really regret never having lived in a big east-coat urban city. I am debt-free because I chose to go to UT (graduated w/ honors) with instate tuition and a great scholarship instead of NYU or Columbia. The truth is, in the past year I have accepted who I am and come out of the closet, and I think it will be easier to grow as an LGBT person in one of those cities and outside of Texas. Also, I know the realities of working at a firm in those cities (i.e. quite a bit more intense than TX), but I feel like financially and personally I am in a place where this is a move I really want to make. I appreciate any advice on how realistic this move would be? All the information I can find seems to be young associates lateraling out of these cities, as opposed to lateraling to these cities.

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Re: Feasibility of moving from TX to NYC/DC

Post by Chokenhauer » Sun Jan 22, 2023 9:22 pm

It would be a very bleak world if you couldn’t move to somewhere that you can finally be yourself. I’ll let more knowledgeable people chime in, but I don’t think you’ll have much trouble. And more importantly, you shouldn’t resign yourself to living somewhere where you feel unhappy based on the opinions of Internet strangers.

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Re: Feasibility of moving from TX to NYC/DC

Post by Anonymous User » Sun Jan 22, 2023 10:24 pm

You have good credentials and a story that I think a lot of law firms will be sympathetic to (not that you have to give details to recruiters if you don't want to). I don't think the transition will be all that difficult. If you just want to live in a neat city with a good LGBT community, I'd throw LA and SF into the mix, too. Those markets are also a little less intense than NY or DC. Look for UT grads at firms in offices you'd like to work, and email them that you're looking to move to their city.

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Re: Feasibility of moving from TX to NYC/DC

Post by papermateflair » Sun Jan 22, 2023 10:59 pm

When I'm interviewing someone whose resume doesn't indicate they have ties to the area, I just want to hear a rational and long-term reason for them to come to my city. If I heard something like "I'm looking to move outside of Texas for personal reasons" or something like that, and I saw an LGBTQ+ bar association or something on your resume (I assume you can join your local one?) I would assume that you're looking to move due to political issues in Texas. No need to tell a long story, just quick and matter of fact. If you run into someone in big law in DC/NYC who is homophobic enough to use that as a reason not to hire you then you wouldn't want to work there with that person anyway. Once I hear a reason that makes sense that explains why you want to be in my city, it's all about your resume/experience.

I second the advice to reach out to UT alums at various law firms that you're interested in. You may also contact the LGBTQ+ bar association for the city you're looking to move to and see if they can connect you to anyone from UT, or anyone who has advice on moving to your chosen city from Texas (for DC: https://dclgbtbar.com).

EDIT to add: you don't have to reveal that you want to move for want to move for reasons relating to being LGBTQ if you don't want to or feel comfortable doing so! I do think most folks in big Northeast cities will be sympathetic to your plight (and there is nothing that East Coast people love more than hating on Texas), but ultimately interviewers will just want to hear *a* legit reason (family, friends in the city, maybe there's better finance work in NYC, whatever it is).

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Re: Feasibility of moving from TX to NYC/DC

Post by Mountainvalleywater » Mon Jan 23, 2023 1:00 pm

I don't think anyone really cares about ties to any major market these days anymore absent being able to form a cogent response to the interview question of why you want to move.

I think the bigger obstacle will be more of having to take another bar possibly (have no idea the reciprocity timelines here) and having your lateral firm pay for that/give you the time to study for it.

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Re: Feasibility of moving from TX to NYC/DC

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Jan 26, 2023 12:54 pm

OP here.

Thank you all for the responses. I considered California, but I would like to go to a UBE state because I feel like that is the most option-expanding choice. I am currently studying evenings and weekends for the UBE, pretty brutal, but I am managing.

I just wanted to comment, for anyone who sees this in the future, that I have never experienced any homophobia at my Biglaw or Regional firm in Texas. I am looking to move for purely personal reasons. Granted, I am very nerdy and quiet straight-presenting white guy, so that is not a universal experience.

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Re: Feasibility of moving from TX to NYC/DC

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Jan 26, 2023 4:35 pm

You don't need to convince New Yorkers why you want to move to New York -- they already know it's the best (only?) city in the world.

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