Fried Frank (NY) vs. Cadwalader (NY) vs. STB (NY) Forum

[Anonymous User]

For finance. Cadwalader seems pretty tame these days, not sure about FF. Opinions?

ETA: STB

[Anonymous User]

do not go to cadwalader, awful rep and work life

[Anonymous User]

Post-holidays bump

[Anonymous User]

Go with FF. The finance group is filled with genuinely kind people.

[12YrsAnAssociate]

My info is very dated, but CWT had such a bad rep when I was in law school that I don't think I could bring myself to go there.

I did 1 case with them about 7 years ago and CWT ran through at least 6 associates during the case. I, of course, have no idea why they left. But I assumed it was because CWT is a dumpster fire.

[Anonymous User]

idk if this is helpful but I know that FF in SF is unhinged re their billing policies

[Anonymous User]

idk if this is helpful but I know that FF in SF is unhinged re their billing policies

Fried Frank doesn't have a SF office?

[Anonymous User]

idk if this is helpful but I know that FF in SF is unhinged re their billing policies

Fried Frank doesn't have a SF office?

thanks for the catch, i was thinking of dechert

[Chrstgtr]

My info is very dated, but CWT had such a bad rep when I was in law school that I don't think I could bring myself to go there.

I did 1 case with them about 7 years ago and CWT ran through at least 6 associates during the case. I, of course, have no idea why they left. But I assumed it was because CWT is a dumpster fire.

CWT screwed their associates over during the start of COVID. The conclusion isn't stale--it's just further reinforced. With how badly and how quickly they screwed their associates, I would not want to be there during another downturn

[Anonymous User]

idk if this is helpful but I know that FF in SF is unhinged re their billing policies

Fried Frank doesn't have a SF office?

thanks for the catch, i was thinking of dechert

Unhinged how?

[Anonymous User]

Go with FF. The finance group is filled with genuinely kind people.

Just chiming in to agree with the above. I have worked with a few of their finance associates (I am in a different corporate practice at FF) and enjoyed my experience.

[Anonymous User]

Go with FF. The finance group is filled with genuinely kind people.

Just chiming in to agree with the above. I have worked with a few of their finance associates (I am in a different corporate practice at FF) and enjoyed my experience.
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As another corporate associate at FF, I can confirm this is accurate.

[Anonymous User]

A Cad summer told me a partner emailed her with work at 2am on a weekend because they wanted her to taste "the true associate work experience", which to be honest sounds incredibly TTT.

[Anonymous User]

Adding Simpson Thacher to the mix. Does that change things?

[Anonymous User]

Adding Simpson Thacher to the mix. Does that change things?

This makes it no contest. Go to STB. The only exception might be if you wanted to do Real Estate (in which case FF would at least compete).

[Anonymous User]

Agree with the above. You have to go STB it is a cut above the other two options.