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Post by Anonymous User » Mon Aug 22, 2022 8:28 am

Any idea what leads to a no offer at BSF (in 2021 one summer out of 12)?
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Re: BSF summer no offers

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Aug 22, 2022 11:34 am

I'm in a similar position. I have a V30 and few V50 offers in NY. Would I be reckless in taking a BSF DC offer over the NY offers, if it is the only DC offer, and if I am interested in litigation and working in DC, given that DC litigation and NY litigation are probably going to be very different? Still waiting to hear back from some firms and will be trying to hopefully have some more options on the table.

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Re: BSF summer no offers

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Aug 22, 2022 12:05 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Mon Aug 22, 2022 11:34 am
I'm in a similar position. I have a V30 and few V50 offers in NY. Would I be reckless in taking a BSF DC offer over the NY offers, if it is the only DC offer, and if I am interested in litigation and working in DC, given that DC litigation and NY litigation are probably going to be very different? Still waiting to hear back from some firms and will be trying to hopefully have some more options on the table.
Interesting situation as well. Would be curious to know your approx school and class rank (feel free to pm). Just one note BSF is small enough that a lot of the work will be cross-office, so the work in DC may not be that much different than their NY office, at least compared to other big shops. Although that's just a guess.

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Re: BSF. no other offers ( mass mail?)

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Aug 22, 2022 1:04 pm

If your only offer is BSF I would absolutely mass mail. That firm may not even be around in another 3-4 years, let alone the limited type of work and experience you could get.

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Re: BSF. no other offers ( mass mail?)

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Aug 22, 2022 1:07 pm

Still shocking how quickly and far BSF has fallen. It was just a few years ago that gunners across the T14 had BSF at the top of their lists.

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Re: BSF. no other offers ( mass mail?)

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Aug 22, 2022 1:39 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Mon Aug 22, 2022 1:04 pm
If your only offer is BSF I would absolutely mass mail. That firm may not even be around in another 3-4 years, let alone the limited type of work and experience you could get.
I thought the one upside of working there is the work experience one can get as a junior, so curious to hear why you think it's limited for someone interested in litigation.

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Re: BSF. no other offers ( mass mail?)

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Aug 22, 2022 1:58 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Mon Aug 22, 2022 1:39 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Mon Aug 22, 2022 1:04 pm
If your only offer is BSF I would absolutely mass mail. That firm may not even be around in another 3-4 years, let alone the limited type of work and experience you could get.
I thought the one upside of working there is the work experience one can get as a junior, so curious to hear why you think it's limited for someone interested in litigation.
They no longer attract top-tier clients like they used to. The only real work they have for juniors now would be doc review and discovery disputes in plaintiff-side contingency work. That sort of case can be lucrative, but it's long-term, and the grunt work at the bottom is pretty bad. Gone are the days BSF associates can expect to work on cases for the like of New York Times, Apple, Uber, Nike, Barclays, etc. (all former clients who took their work elsewhere in the last 3-4 years).

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Re: BSF. no other offers ( mass mail?)

Post by Joachim2017 » Mon Aug 22, 2022 1:59 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Mon Aug 22, 2022 1:07 pm
Still shocking how quickly and far BSF has fallen. It was just a few years ago that gunners across the T14 had BSF at the top of their lists.

It's a case study in ego-driven management breakdown. The whole thing -- even after the ill-chosen representations of Weinstein and/or Theranos -- could have been avoided if there was less ego and more careful management. But there wasn't, so here we are, a 3rd set of firm "leaders" in as many years and a nosedive towards mediocrity.

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Re: BSF. no other offers ( mass mail?)

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Aug 22, 2022 2:42 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Mon Aug 22, 2022 1:58 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Mon Aug 22, 2022 1:39 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Mon Aug 22, 2022 1:04 pm
If your only offer is BSF I would absolutely mass mail. That firm may not even be around in another 3-4 years, let alone the limited type of work and experience you could get.
I thought the one upside of working there is the work experience one can get as a junior, so curious to hear why you think it's limited for someone interested in litigation.
They no longer attract top-tier clients like they used to. The only real work they have for juniors now would be doc review and discovery disputes in plaintiff-side contingency work. That sort of case can be lucrative, but it's long-term, and the grunt work at the bottom is pretty bad. Gone are the days BSF associates can expect to work on cases for the like of New York Times, Apple, Uber, Nike, Barclays, etc. (all former clients who took their work elsewhere in the last 3-4 years).
With over 100 partners they must still have some other top-tier clients. Is it just that there are fewer of those clients and juniors are not getting the same type of work? Curious to hear what you would choose between a JD NY and BSF if those are the only two offer. (seems like all the JD NY juniors I interviewed with are doing only doc review and the superstars did minimal drafting).

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