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Willkie (NY) vs. Dechert (NY)

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Aug 17, 2022 4:05 pm

Can people please share their thoughts on both firms? I really enjoyed my Dechert CB. I’m not sure what practice area for Dechert but I’d be doing the transactional rotation at Willkie.

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Re: Willkie (NY) vs. Dechert (NY)

Post by existentialcrisis » Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:44 pm

Willkie and it’s not close. Better at every relevant transactional area.

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Re: Willkie (NY) vs. Dechert (NY)

Post by Res Ipsa Loquitter » Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:56 pm

Willkie by a mile. Dechert fired about 1/3 of its first year class around 2013 (allegedly), told them all it was performance based, and then tried to keep them all quiet with threats of blacklisting. Disclaimer: this is all alleged / reputed.

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Re: Willkie (NY) vs. Dechert (NY)

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Res Ipsa Loquitter wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:56 pm
Willkie by a mile. Dechert fired about 1/3 of its first year class around 2013 (allegedly), told them all it was performance based, and then tried to keep them all quiet with threats of blacklisting. Disclaimer: this is all alleged / reputed.
Would you still say Willkie based on the Dechert response to COVID?

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Re: Willkie (NY) vs. Dechert (NY)

Post by existentialcrisis » Fri Aug 19, 2022 10:59 am

Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Aug 18, 2022 9:33 pm
Res Ipsa Loquitter wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:56 pm
Willkie by a mile. Dechert fired about 1/3 of its first year class around 2013 (allegedly), told them all it was performance based, and then tried to keep them all quiet with threats of blacklisting. Disclaimer: this is all alleged / reputed.
Would you still say Willkie based on the Dechert response to COVID?
Willkie is also just a more stable firm that's better in NY at every practice area I can think of and generally has a much larger NY presence.

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Re: Willkie (NY) vs. Dechert (NY)

Post by Moneytrees » Fri Aug 19, 2022 11:22 am

existentialcrisis wrote:
Fri Aug 19, 2022 10:59 am
Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Aug 18, 2022 9:33 pm
Res Ipsa Loquitter wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:56 pm
Willkie by a mile. Dechert fired about 1/3 of its first year class around 2013 (allegedly), told them all it was performance based, and then tried to keep them all quiet with threats of blacklisting. Disclaimer: this is all alleged / reputed.
Would you still say Willkie based on the Dechert response to COVID?
Willkie is also just a more stable firm that's better in NY at every practice area I can think of and generally has a much larger NY presence.
I don't know if Wilkie is considered better in NY at every practice area. Wilkie is probably the pick if you want to be in NY long term, but in practice the two firms are essentially peers.

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Re: Willkie (NY) vs. Dechert (NY)

Post by existentialcrisis » Fri Aug 19, 2022 11:34 am

Moneytrees wrote:
Fri Aug 19, 2022 11:22 am
existentialcrisis wrote:
Fri Aug 19, 2022 10:59 am
Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Aug 18, 2022 9:33 pm
Res Ipsa Loquitter wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:56 pm
Willkie by a mile. Dechert fired about 1/3 of its first year class around 2013 (allegedly), told them all it was performance based, and then tried to keep them all quiet with threats of blacklisting. Disclaimer: this is all alleged / reputed.
Would you still say Willkie based on the Dechert response to COVID?
Willkie is also just a more stable firm that's better in NY at every practice area I can think of and generally has a much larger NY presence.
I don't know if Wilkie is considered better in NY at every practice area. Wilkie is probably the pick if you want to be in NY long term, but in practice the two firms are essentially peers.
I'll pick 2 major transactional ones + litigation + BK:

Banking/Finance - WFG Band 4; Dechert Band 5

M&A - WFG Band 4 (the Elite); Dechert Band 1 (Highly regarded)

General Commercial Lit - WFG Band 1 (Highly Regarded); Dechert Band 3 (Highly Regarded)

BK - WFG Band 1 (the Elite); Dechert Band 5 (the Elite)

To be fair, this was a bit closer than I'd imagined, but (1) the above still illustrates my point about Willkie's clear advantage and (2) if anything, I think this undersells Willkie's reputational advantage.

Also I never worked at either of these firms and I'm only chiming in here because I think there's enough of an advantage to WFG that I genuinely don't think this is a "pick em based on fit" type scenario.

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Re: Willkie (NY) vs. Dechert (NY)

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Aug 19, 2022 7:39 pm

existentialcrisis wrote:
Fri Aug 19, 2022 11:34 am
Moneytrees wrote:
Fri Aug 19, 2022 11:22 am
existentialcrisis wrote:
Fri Aug 19, 2022 10:59 am
Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Aug 18, 2022 9:33 pm
Res Ipsa Loquitter wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:56 pm
Willkie by a mile. Dechert fired about 1/3 of its first year class around 2013 (allegedly), told them all it was performance based, and then tried to keep them all quiet with threats of blacklisting. Disclaimer: this is all alleged / reputed.
Would you still say Willkie based on the Dechert response to COVID?
Willkie is also just a more stable firm that's better in NY at every practice area I can think of and generally has a much larger NY presence.
I don't know if Wilkie is considered better in NY at every practice area. Wilkie is probably the pick if you want to be in NY long term, but in practice the two firms are essentially peers.
I'll pick 2 major transactional ones + litigation + BK:

Banking/Finance - WFG Band 4; Dechert Band 5

M&A - WFG Band 4 (the Elite); Dechert Band 1 (Highly regarded)

General Commercial Lit - WFG Band 1 (Highly Regarded); Dechert Band 3 (Highly Regarded)

BK - WFG Band 1 (the Elite); Dechert Band 5 (the Elite)

To be fair, this was a bit closer than I'd imagined, but (1) the above still illustrates my point about Willkie's clear advantage and (2) if anything, I think this undersells Willkie's reputational advantage.

Also I never worked at either of these firms and I'm only chiming in here because I think there's enough of an advantage to WFG that I genuinely don't think this is a "pick em based on fit" type scenario.
Tbf Dechert has a far superior NY white collar practice, and that’s a pretty significant area, though not one seemingly relevant to OP

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