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Re: 2023 Vault/Firsthand Rankings

Post by SGTslaughter » Thu Jul 07, 2022 2:57 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 2:02 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 12:35 pm
Moneytrees wrote:
Tue Jul 05, 2022 12:54 pm
Apologies if this was already covered, but did Vault eliminate the "New York" firm rankings?
NY rankings are out now (along with other updated rankings for regions, practice area, best to work for, etc.)
Can someone please tell me WTF is going on with this list? https://firsthand.co/best-companies-to- ... electivity
Dead @ Morgan Lewis being on here

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Re: 2023 Vault/Firsthand Rankings

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Jul 07, 2022 3:09 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 2:02 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 12:35 pm
Moneytrees wrote:
Tue Jul 05, 2022 12:54 pm
Apologies if this was already covered, but did Vault eliminate the "New York" firm rankings?
NY rankings are out now (along with other updated rankings for regions, practice area, best to work for, etc.)
Can someone please tell me WTF is going on with this list? https://firsthand.co/best-companies-to- ... electivity
The only things the selectivity list gets right are: (1) WLRK at the top, and (2) K&E at the absolute bottom

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Re: 2023 Vault/Firsthand Rankings

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Jul 07, 2022 3:12 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 3:09 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 2:02 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 12:35 pm
Moneytrees wrote:
Tue Jul 05, 2022 12:54 pm
Apologies if this was already covered, but did Vault eliminate the "New York" firm rankings?
NY rankings are out now (along with other updated rankings for regions, practice area, best to work for, etc.)
Can someone please tell me WTF is going on with this list? https://firsthand.co/best-companies-to- ... electivity
The only things the selectivity list gets right are: (1) WLRK at the top, and (2) K&E at the absolute bottom
I'm all for shitting on K&E, but McDermott blowing them out of the water? Like what? If I were at Vault I'd stop publishing this list it's so embarrassing.

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Re: 2023 Vault/Firsthand Rankings

Post by jsnow212 » Thu Jul 07, 2022 4:13 pm

McDonald's is #1/#2 in nearly all the categories. Interesting, totally nothing clearly off about that at all, right FirstHand? :lol:

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Re: 2023 Vault/Firsthand Rankings

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Jul 07, 2022 4:21 pm

jsnow212 wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 4:13 pm
McDonald's is #1/#2 in nearly all the categories. Interesting, totally nothing clearly off about that at all, right FirstHand? :lol:
#1 for transparency in that they transparently cooked the books.
#1 for associate/partner relations in that partners force associates to lie on surveys.
#1 for quality of work in that they rank themselves #1 for everything.

Maybe Vault should have spent more time looking at their methods and for abuse and less time rebranding into whatever First Hand is. Epic fail.

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Re: 2023 Vault/Firsthand Rankings

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:45 pm

Why are Kirkland and Skadden on the Midwest ranking? Did I miss something, or did they make an obvious mistake?

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Re: 2023 Vault/Firsthand Rankings

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:40 pm

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Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:45 pm
Why are Kirkland and Skadden on the Midwest ranking? Did I miss something, or did they make an obvious mistake?
Kirkland is a Chicago firm....

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Re: 2023 Vault/Firsthand Rankings

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Jul 07, 2022 9:09 pm

SGTslaughter wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 2:57 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 2:02 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 12:35 pm
Moneytrees wrote:
Tue Jul 05, 2022 12:54 pm
Apologies if this was already covered, but did Vault eliminate the "New York" firm rankings?
NY rankings are out now (along with other updated rankings for regions, practice area, best to work for, etc.)
Can someone please tell me WTF is going on with this list? https://firsthand.co/best-companies-to- ... electivity
Dead @ Morgan Lewis being on here
ML > Covington confirmed

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Re: 2023 Vault/Firsthand Rankings

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Jul 07, 2022 9:15 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 9:09 pm
SGTslaughter wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 2:57 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 2:02 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 12:35 pm
Moneytrees wrote:
Tue Jul 05, 2022 12:54 pm
Apologies if this was already covered, but did Vault eliminate the "New York" firm rankings?
NY rankings are out now (along with other updated rankings for regions, practice area, best to work for, etc.)
Can someone please tell me WTF is going on with this list? https://firsthand.co/best-companies-to- ... electivity
Dead @ Morgan Lewis being on here
ML > Covington confirmed
Don't you mean McDonalds > ML >>>>>>> Covington?

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Re: 2023 Vault/Firsthand Rankings

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Jul 07, 2022 9:30 pm

How much do you think McDermott's recruiting department had to pay to get the top spot in all these random unquantifiable secondary categories?

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Re: 2023 Vault/Firsthand Rankings

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Jul 07, 2022 9:34 pm

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Thu Jul 07, 2022 9:30 pm
How much do you think McDermott's recruiting department had to pay to get the top spot in all these random unquantifiable secondary categories?
A whole lotta big macs

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Re: 2023 Vault/Firsthand Rankings

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Jul 07, 2022 10:18 pm

Also Fried Frank more selective than Quinn Emanuel, Paul Weiss, and Debevoise :D

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Re: 2023 Vault/Firsthand Rankings

Post by stella12347 » Fri Jul 08, 2022 8:30 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 2:02 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 12:35 pm
Moneytrees wrote:
Tue Jul 05, 2022 12:54 pm
Apologies if this was already covered, but did Vault eliminate the "New York" firm rankings?
NY rankings are out now (along with other updated rankings for regions, practice area, best to work for, etc.)
Can someone please tell me WTF is going on with this list? https://firsthand.co/best-companies-to- ... electivity
Lol 1 through 3 are at least arguable, but then ... O'Melveny??

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Re: 2023 Vault/Firsthand Rankings

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:30 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:40 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:45 pm
Why are Kirkland and Skadden on the Midwest ranking? Did I miss something, or did they make an obvious mistake?
Kirkland is a Chicago firm....
Yes, duh—Chicago firms are generally not listed on the Midwest ranking—it’s really a Midwest-minus-Chicago ranking, which is why it’s so weird

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Re: 2023 Vault/Firsthand Rankings

Post by Res Ipsa Loquitter » Fri Jul 08, 2022 11:01 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:30 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:40 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:45 pm
Why are Kirkland and Skadden on the Midwest ranking? Did I miss something, or did they make an obvious mistake?
Kirkland is a Chicago firm....
Yes, duh—Chicago firms are generally not listed on the Midwest ranking—it’s really a Midwest-minus-Chicago ranking, which is why it’s so weird
Same way NYC isn’t on the mid Atlantic ranking

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Re: 2023 Vault/Firsthand Rankings

Post by Anonymous User » Sat Jul 09, 2022 10:57 am

These rankings are wild.

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