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[Anonymous User]

What

[nixy]

I mean they couldn’t possibly have just decided you weren’t worth adjusting their timeline for.

[Anonymous User]

Blowing up anonymously about the fairly common (if admittedly shitty) practice of interview ghosting says far more about you, OP, than it possibly does about this firm.

[2013]

Sometimes when candidates tell firms they have deadlines and the firm can’t meet those deadlines, they pass on a candidate. Not sure why you’re calling this unethical or unprofessional. You’re the one on here calling people out by first and last name like an immature 15 year old.

[Anonymous User]

This happened to me recently, except it was a V5.

They can do whatever they want, whenever they want.

It sucks. Shouldn't have gone to law school or become a lawyer.

[nixy]

Oh honey, employers in every industry do this.

[Anonymous User]

Every employer does this. It's not unethical. Probably unprofessional, but ghosting is such a routine thing.

[alawyer2018]

Had all lateral interviews pulled by HR/Recruiting, abruptly, once I gave them the courtesy of letting them know I had other offers from other firms with deadlines attached. Their attorneys sat by and did nothing. For anyone who has options out their, try not to choose a law firm that acts like a jealous and immature 15 year-old would in the same situation...

Not sure why you're so put out by this given that you claim to have other offers (plural). If you were really interested in this specific firm, it sounds like you didn't do a great job communicating your sincere interest in the firm when you told them about your other offers. In any event, you probably should have directly called the two folks you identified by name in your post and had a frank, professional conversation with them about what happened. Posting this is not a good look on your part.

[Bimmerfan]

BIPC is a very highly regarded firm. Nothing wrong with what they did here.

[hdr]

I mean they couldn’t possibly have just decided you weren’t worth adjusting their timeline for.

Rather than abruptly cancel the interviews, I'd think they would just say they can't move up the dates and that OP should decide whether to proceed or not. Though I suspect OP may have communicated poorly with the firm.

[Anonymous User]

A firm gave me an offer and more or less rescinded it when I asked for more time to fully evaluate as I had an offer pending from another firm (in two days). They basically took it as me denying them.

[nixy]

I mean they couldn’t possibly have just decided you weren’t worth adjusting their timeline for.

Rather than abruptly cancel the interviews, I'd think they would just say they can't move up the dates and that OP should decide whether to proceed or not. Though I suspect OP may have communicated poorly with the firm.

Sure, but they could have already identified/lined up a candidate or two they liked better so figured it wasn’t worth wasting anyone’s time.

I’m not saying it’s the only/best way in the world to handle it, but I don’t think it’s “post on the internet in high dudgeon” level, either.

[Anonymous User]

FWIW. I interviewed with Buchanan in Philly several years ago and while nothing they did violated any "rules" that I am aware of, the pressure to decide quickly (from partners I would have worked with) felt manipulative. I also heard some concerning things about how they treated someone who summered there. My "gut" said not to work there. I've interviewed at a lot of places in law school and as a lateral and it was the only place that I got alarm bells from the recruiting tactics themselves.

Unfortunately I can't be more specific without identifying myself.

[Anonymous User]

One of the worst partners I ever worked across from was a former long-time Buchanan partner.

[Anonymous User]

OP here. I respect all the comments made. Just wanted to add that I'm lateraling as of counsel, and this will be my 4th lateral overall. I had a non-liberal arts career prior to becoming an attorney (trying to avoid too many specifics, although if I was overly concerned with outing I wouldn't have given as many specifics as I have already). I've been around enough to know these things happen, obviously, and wanted to start a thread to see if anyone had similar experiences (unethical and/or unprofessional - in my case, this was unprofessional, even for this industry and my prior career). I have some of my own clients (small business, but still, I'm pointing this out along with the foregoing to make the next point). So I've been around the block many times and at this long enough, and gotten this far, that you'll just have to trust me or not when I say my communication skills with Buchanan were not the issue. I literally just informed them I had another offer that had X deadline associated with it and did it as a courtesy and of course to make sure scheduling and timeline were ok, and within 10 minutes my final round interviews and lunch was cancelled - already went through conflicts and background prior to this final interview lunch (was waiting to clear). I've provided disclosure of competing offers to my top choice firms every other time I have lateraled. Quite frankly, there may have been unethical practices in having me disclose the information Buchanan asked me to disclose in their conflicts process as my current firm is considered a "mega firm" that they try to compete for clients with in several markets, but I won't make claims for which I don't have all the facts. It was patently unprofessional, and what ensued after - when I asked the partners what happened - was equally if not more unprofessional with what they told me on my phone call (if people are interested, I can post about this, I have to think about not dropping too many specifics). As for why this upset me, aside from it being unprofessional (YMMV and you may think this was par for the course, as I've said, I believe differently from my experiences and there is the matter of the conflicts check and other things in interacting with the Buchanan team that are in play here) I had specific reasons for wanting Buchanan. But of course I'm thankful to have good offers elsewhere now and that they have shown their true colors before I ended up working for them. I know others have had similar experiences with Buchanan and Buchanan has never been known to have a great rep, some of which is reflected ITT. Still, this was genuinely surprising and unexpected.

[Anonymous User]

I mean they couldn’t possibly have just decided you weren’t worth adjusting their timeline for.

Rather than abruptly cancel the interviews, I'd think they would just say they can't move up the dates and that OP should decide whether to proceed or not. Though I suspect OP may have communicated poorly with the firm.

Sure, but they could have already identified/lined up a candidate or two they liked better so figured it wasn’t worth wasting anyone’s time.

I’m not saying it’s the only/best way in the world to handle it, but I don’t think it’s “post on the internet in high dudgeon” level, either.

OP here, as noted in my TED-talk length second post above (sorry y'all for the tl;dr) you'll just have to trust it wasn't communication. I thought they would just say they can't move up the dates and that I should decide whether to proceed or not as well (that's been my past 3 lateral experiences with numerous firms and in-house positions). As for posting on the internet about it (or ranting, or "high dudgeon" level posting, call it what it what you want), that's my choice and I stand behind it . After this I don't think anyone should ever choose Buchanan over another firm and I know now Buchanan is god-awful.

[Anonymous User]

OP here. I respect all the comments made. Just wanted to add that I'm lateraling as of counsel, and this will be my 4th lateral overall. I had a non-liberal arts career prior to becoming an attorney (trying to avoid too many specifics, although if I was overly concerned with outing I wouldn't have given as many specifics as I have already). I've been around enough to know these things happen, obviously, and wanted to start a thread to see if anyone had similar experiences (unethical and/or unprofessional - in my case, this was unprofessional, even for this industry and my prior career). I have some of my own clients (small business, but still, I'm pointing this out along with the foregoing to make the next point). So I've been around the block many times and at this long enough, and gotten this far, that you'll just have to trust me or not when I say my communication skills with Buchanan were not the issue. I literally just informed them I had another offer that had X deadline associated with it and did it as a courtesy and of course to make sure scheduling and timeline were ok, and within 10 minutes my final round interviews and lunch was cancelled - already went through conflicts and background prior to this final interview lunch (was waiting to clear). I've provided disclosure of competing offers to my top choice firms every other time I have lateraled. Quite frankly, there may have been unethical practices in having me disclose the information Buchanan asked me to disclose in their conflicts process as my current firm is considered a "mega firm" that they try to compete for clients with in several markets, but I won't make claims for which I don't have all the facts. It was patently unprofessional, and what ensued after - when I asked the partners what happened - was equally if not more unprofessional with what they told me on my phone call (if people are interested, I can post about this, I have to think about not dropping too many specifics). As for why this upset me, aside from it being unprofessional (YMMV and you may think this was par for the course, as I've said, I believe differently from my experiences and there is the matter of the conflicts check and other things in interacting with the Buchanan team that are in play here) I had specific reasons for wanting Buchanan. But of course I'm thankful to have good offers elsewhere now and that they have shown their true colors before I ended up working for them. I know others have had similar experiences with Buchanan and Buchanan has never been known to have a great rep, some of which is reflected ITT. Still, this was genuinely surprising and unexpected.

Sure, what not give us more details. This is fun. Just, add paragraphs next time.

[JusticeJackson]

Wachtel unethically sent me a polite rejection letter shortly after I applied. Probably because I’m a dog shit candidate. Fuck Wachtel.

[nixy]

Whatever partners said after the final interview got cancelled absolutely could color the professionalism of the whole encounter, but without any information about what that was (or even information that such a conversation took place, originally), it’s impossible to say.

[Anonymous User]

OP here. I respect all the comments made. Just wanted to add that I'm lateraling as of counsel, and this will be my 4th lateral overall. I had a non-liberal arts career prior to becoming an attorney (trying to avoid too many specifics, although if I was overly concerned with outing I wouldn't have given as many specifics as I have already). I've been around enough to know these things happen, obviously, and wanted to start a thread to see if anyone had similar experiences (unethical and/or unprofessional - in my case, this was unprofessional, even for this industry and my prior career). I have some of my own clients (small business, but still, I'm pointing this out along with the foregoing to make the next point). So I've been around the block many times and at this long enough, and gotten this far, that you'll just have to trust me or not when I say my communication skills with Buchanan were not the issue. I literally just informed them I had another offer that had X deadline associated with it and did it as a courtesy and of course to make sure scheduling and timeline were ok, and within 10 minutes my final round interviews and lunch was cancelled - already went through conflicts and background prior to this final interview lunch (was waiting to clear). I've provided disclosure of competing offers to my top choice firms every other time I have lateraled. Quite frankly, there may have been unethical practices in having me disclose the information Buchanan asked me to disclose in their conflicts process as my current firm is considered a "mega firm" that they try to compete for clients with in several markets, but I won't make claims for which I don't have all the facts. It was patently unprofessional, and what ensued after - when I asked the partners what happened - was equally if not more unprofessional with what they told me on my phone call (if people are interested, I can post about this, I have to think about not dropping too many specifics). As for why this upset me, aside from it being unprofessional (YMMV and you may think this was par for the course, as I've said, I believe differently from my experiences and there is the matter of the conflicts check and other things in interacting with the Buchanan team that are in play here) I had specific reasons for wanting Buchanan. But of course I'm thankful to have good offers elsewhere now and that they have shown their true colors before I ended up working for them. I know others have had similar experiences with Buchanan and Buchanan has never been known to have a great rep, some of which is reflected ITT. Still, this was genuinely surprising and unexpected.

Sure, what not give us more details. This is fun. Just, add paragraphs next time.

OP. I wouldn’t worry about it. Best to delete the thread and move on. Good luck.