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Blackline or redline

Blackline
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Important question

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Oct 18, 2021 1:25 pm

Important question for transactional folks

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Re: Important question

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Oct 18, 2021 7:42 pm

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Important question for transactional folks
All the PE shops call it a blackline. Important practice note for new associates that I see them getting wrong all of the time: critical to clearly label blacklines when sending back to the client, otherwise they are very confused when opening. Preferred format: "BLACKED - Merger Agreement [date of latest draft] vs [date of older draft]"

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Re: Important question

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Oct 18, 2021 8:13 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Mon Oct 18, 2021 7:42 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Mon Oct 18, 2021 1:25 pm
Important question for transactional folks
All the PE shops call it a blackline. Important practice note for new associates that I see them getting wrong all of the time: critical to clearly label blacklines when sending back to the client, otherwise they are very confused when opening. Preferred format: "BLACKED - Merger Agreement [date of latest draft] vs [date of older draft]"
Yes, this is very important. QFP

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Re: Important question

Post by hangtime813 » Mon Oct 18, 2021 8:30 pm

lol the lines are actually red in tracked changes, at least for the first reviewer

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Re: Important question

Post by Anonymous User » Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:33 pm

I've literally heard both words being used in the same email from the same person, lol.

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Re: Important question

Post by Anonymous User » Tue Oct 19, 2021 7:00 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Mon Oct 18, 2021 7:42 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Mon Oct 18, 2021 1:25 pm
Important question for transactional folks
All the PE shops call it a blackline. Important practice note for new associates that I see them getting wrong all of the time: critical to clearly label blacklines when sending back to the client, otherwise they are very confused when opening. Preferred format: "BLACKED - Merger Agreement [date of latest draft] vs [date of older draft]"
lmao. :lol:

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Re: Important question

Post by Anonymous User » Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:20 pm

For some reason I find myself using blackline as a verb and redline as a noun. So “I blacklined the draft to the 10/13 draft” or whatever, vs “I attached a redline showing changes to the 10/13 draft.” No clue why I do this and I’m sure it’s very confusing for juniors!!

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Re: Important question

Post by unlicensedpotato » Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:43 pm

I have never understood how "blackline" even makes sense given what the document looks like.

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Re: Important question

Post by Dw686 » Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:07 pm

unlicensedpotato wrote:
Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:43 pm
I have never understood how "blackline" even makes sense given what the document looks like.
That's why you print it out, hand it to your secretary and ask them to scan in black and white before sending it out.

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Re: Important question

Post by FF2020 » Tue Oct 19, 2021 11:10 pm

unlicensedpotato wrote:
Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:43 pm
I have never understood how "blackline" even makes sense given what the document looks like.
The text that's left in black is what the previous author got right, the stuff in red and blue is about corrections. Drawing attention to the black text makes you an optimist. Focusing on the red means you're negative.

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Re: Important question

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Oct 20, 2021 1:17 am

FF2020 wrote:
Tue Oct 19, 2021 11:10 pm
unlicensedpotato wrote:
Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:43 pm
I have never understood how "blackline" even makes sense given what the document looks like.
The text that's left in black is what the previous author got right, the stuff in red and blue is about corrections. Drawing attention to the black text makes you an optimist. Focusing on the red means you're negative.
Should be a blueline then.

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Re: Important question

Post by FF2020 » Wed Oct 20, 2021 1:20 am

Anonymous User wrote:
Wed Oct 20, 2021 1:17 am
FF2020 wrote:
Tue Oct 19, 2021 11:10 pm
unlicensedpotato wrote:
Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:43 pm
I have never understood how "blackline" even makes sense given what the document looks like.
The text that's left in black is what the previous author got right, the stuff in red and blue is about corrections. Drawing attention to the black text makes you an optimist. Focusing on the red means you're negative.
Should be a blueline then.
Not sure how your programs work. In mine, the unchanged text is black, struck text is red, new text is blue.

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Re: Important question

Post by The Lsat Airbender » Wed Oct 20, 2021 11:01 am

unlicensedpotato wrote:
Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:43 pm
I have never understood how "blackline" even makes sense given what the document looks like.
In the Grim, Dark Past of the 20th Century, you'd create blacklines by physically striking-through/underscoring the text with a pen and a ruler. So it was black markings on a black (typewritten) text.

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Re: Important question

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Oct 20, 2021 11:47 am

The Lsat Airbender wrote:
Wed Oct 20, 2021 11:01 am
unlicensedpotato wrote:
Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:43 pm
I have never understood how "blackline" even makes sense given what the document looks like.
In the Grim, Dark Past of the 20th Century, you'd create blacklines by physically striking-through/underscoring the text with a pen and a ruler. So it was black markings on a black (typewritten) text.
Jesus.

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Re: Important question

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Oct 20, 2021 11:49 am

The Lsat Airbender wrote:
Wed Oct 20, 2021 11:01 am
In the Grim, Dark Past of the 20th Century, you'd create blacklines by physically striking-through/underscoring the text with a pen and a ruler. So it was black markings on a black (typewritten) text.
Would that document be the final version? If not, it seems weird not to pick a color that contrasts with black so noticing edits is easier.

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Re: Important question

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Oct 20, 2021 1:22 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Wed Oct 20, 2021 11:49 am
The Lsat Airbender wrote:
Wed Oct 20, 2021 11:01 am
In the Grim, Dark Past of the 20th Century, you'd create blacklines by physically striking-through/underscoring the text with a pen and a ruler. So it was black markings on a black (typewritten) text.
Would that document be the final version? If not, it seems weird not to pick a color that contrasts with black so noticing edits is easier.
Maybe it was photocopied and sent over by messenger? Probably didn't have color printers in the stone age. Also if in typewriter, only black ink I think.

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Re: Important question

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Oct 20, 2021 1:51 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Wed Oct 20, 2021 11:47 am
The Lsat Airbender wrote:
Wed Oct 20, 2021 11:01 am
unlicensedpotato wrote:
Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:43 pm
I have never understood how "blackline" even makes sense given what the document looks like.
In the Grim, Dark Past of the 20th Century, you'd create blacklines by physically striking-through/underscoring the text with a pen and a ruler. So it was black markings on a black (typewritten) text.
Jesus.
This is why I don't care when partners tell me how many hours they worked as junior associates in the 90s. I too can bill a million hours if every time I do diligence I had to hop on a plane, go to the client's offices, open a filing cabinet and find a fucking document.

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Re: Important question

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Oct 20, 2021 2:12 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Wed Oct 20, 2021 1:22 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Wed Oct 20, 2021 11:49 am
The Lsat Airbender wrote:
Wed Oct 20, 2021 11:01 am
In the Grim, Dark Past of the 20th Century, you'd create blacklines by physically striking-through/underscoring the text with a pen and a ruler. So it was black markings on a black (typewritten) text.
Would that document be the final version? If not, it seems weird not to pick a color that contrasts with black so noticing edits is easier.
Maybe it was photocopied and sent over by messenger? Probably didn't have color printers in the stone age. Also if in typewriter, only black ink I think.
But that would not address the original color of the pen the other user was referring to.

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Re: Important question

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Oct 20, 2021 3:30 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Wed Oct 20, 2021 1:22 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Wed Oct 20, 2021 11:49 am
The Lsat Airbender wrote:
Wed Oct 20, 2021 11:01 am
In the Grim, Dark Past of the 20th Century, you'd create blacklines by physically striking-through/underscoring the text with a pen and a ruler. So it was black markings on a black (typewritten) text.
Would that document be the final version? If not, it seems weird not to pick a color that contrasts with black so noticing edits is easier.
Maybe it was photocopied and sent over by messenger? Probably didn't have color printers in the stone age. Also if in typewriter, only black ink I think.
Stories in those days are crazy - James Stewart writes about it in “The Partners”. Precedents would be typed over carbon paper stencils on typewriters, people would literally cut text from typewriter ribbons and paste on top of earlier text, and then things would get sent out. A partner in his 60s told me about how it was his job, as a mid-level associate, to set blacklining form guidelines for juniors/paralegals/secretaries.

Another older partner would tell stories about how there was a FedEx terminal on 42nd and 10th. Junior/midlevel associates would rush to make the cut off on a Friday night. In the partner’s telling, this had follow on effects: sex workers figured out which alternate Friday was payday and so you’d see throngs of associates and people looking for their custom outside the FedEx bureau on those nights.

Every innovation - Xerox machines; word processors; fax machines; and finally external email and automatic compare software - made things more efficient, and more support staff redundant. I imagine there was a lot of this sort of stuff as a rising corporate associate until the ‘90s. The hours may have been long, but some of them were obviously dedicated to admin and when you went home you actually went home (unless you were paged, I guess).

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Re: Important question

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Oct 20, 2021 4:25 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Wed Oct 20, 2021 2:12 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Wed Oct 20, 2021 1:22 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Wed Oct 20, 2021 11:49 am
The Lsat Airbender wrote:
Wed Oct 20, 2021 11:01 am
In the Grim, Dark Past of the 20th Century, you'd create blacklines by physically striking-through/underscoring the text with a pen and a ruler. So it was black markings on a black (typewritten) text.
Would that document be the final version? If not, it seems weird not to pick a color that contrasts with black so noticing edits is easier.
Maybe it was photocopied and sent over by messenger? Probably didn't have color printers in the stone age. Also if in typewriter, only black ink I think.
But that would not address the original color of the pen the other user was referring to.
I was assuming that copiers did not have color, so the version sent to the other side would be black. Also the next comment is probably right that they used carbon paper not copiers back then. Carbon paper is black or gray.

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