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Help me decide: Jones Day NY or Mayer Brown Chi

Post by eeriedoctrine » Sat Aug 28, 2021 10:27 am

doing litigation, think I would be happy in either city but know they have very different legal cultures

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Re: Help me decide: Jones Day NY or Mayer Brown Chi

Post by Anonymous User » Sat Aug 28, 2021 11:33 am

Your money will go further in Chicago and JD NY is far from impressive.

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Re: Help me decide: Jones Day NY or Mayer Brown Chi

Post by Anonymous User » Sat Aug 28, 2021 11:57 am

eeriedoctrine wrote:
Sat Aug 28, 2021 10:27 am
doing litigation, think I would be happy in either city but know they have very different legal cultures
JD NY does not pay market. Even if they did, your money would go further in Chicago. And MB is probably better ranked in Chicago than JD is in NY.

To me, if you are okay in either city, this would be a very easy choice. What are your pause factors?

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Re: Help me decide: Jones Day NY or Mayer Brown Chi

Post by Anonymous User » Sat Aug 28, 2021 12:04 pm

Have you lived in either city for an extended period of time? I hesitate to believe a lot of posters on TLS that waive away city considerations believing that its a wash between them...I mean your day-to-day will differ tremendously between NYC and CHI. Your guiding concern should be where you want to live since I don't think the differences between the two firms are enough to override their locations.

I'm pretty sure JD pays market at least for the first year - it seems to be a black box after that (but most likely follows market at least for 1-2 more years).

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Re: Help me decide: Jones Day NY or Mayer Brown Chi

Post by publius365 » Sat Aug 28, 2021 1:17 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Sat Aug 28, 2021 12:04 pm
I'm pretty sure JD pays market at least for the first year - it seems to be a black box after that (but most likely follows market at least for 1-2 more years).
It doesn't, though. https://abovethelaw.com/2021/07/inside- ... 0000-myth/

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Re: Help me decide: Jones Day NY or Mayer Brown Chi

Post by Anonymous User » Sat Aug 28, 2021 1:26 pm

eeriedoctrine wrote:
Sat Aug 28, 2021 10:27 am
doing litigation, think I would be happy in either city but know they have very different legal cultures
I would go with Mayer Brown, either CHI or NY. Why choose to deal with the BS black box compensation if you don't have to?

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Re: Help me decide: Jones Day NY or Mayer Brown Chi

Post by Robot » Sat Aug 28, 2021 4:33 pm

Mayer Brown is one of the top firms in Chicago and pays market, Jones Day is not a major player in NYC and doesn't, plus COL in NY is very high. I don't see why this is a question unless you like NYC a lot more than Chicago.

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Re: Help me decide: Jones Day NY or Mayer Brown Chi

Post by Anonymous User » Sun Aug 29, 2021 9:08 am

Their litigation groups are pretty different. Jones Day does a lot of national MDL litigation which they are well suited to do bc they have so many U.S. offices. The NY office of Jones Day does a lot of financial litigation for large banks. Jones Day also has a strong appellate practice. Having said all of that, first decision is NY or Chicago—but if the answer is NY then these are reasons to go to JD.

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Re: Help me decide: Jones Day NY or Mayer Brown Chi

Post by almostperfectt » Sun Aug 29, 2021 12:01 pm

To give some important context, people on this board generally are not a fan of Jones Day. Especially its black box compensation and promotion system. Kind of a black sheep type thing

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Re: Help me decide: Jones Day NY or Mayer Brown Chi

Post by Anonymous User » Sun Aug 29, 2021 9:12 pm

Either choice could be reasonable. Mayer Brown has a great reputation in Chicago. Jones Day has a well-respected litigation group in New York. Where would you rather live? What type of work are you hoping to do?

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