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Lateralled in November, Hate It, Want to Leave
How bad would it be for my career or look on my resume if I tried to go in-house ASAP?
Would any company even want to interview me once they realize I've been with my current firm for such a short time?
I'm a sixth year with only one prior firm, to the extent that that matters.
Would any company even want to interview me once they realize I've been with my current firm for such a short time?
I'm a sixth year with only one prior firm, to the extent that that matters.
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Re: Lateralled in November, Hate It, Want to Leave
If you can sell yourself successfully to an in-house gig, no one will care. You’re clearly capable of holding down a job for a while, which is the concern about job-hopping.
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Re: Lateralled in November, Hate It, Want to Leave
In my experience, everyone in biglaw essentially gets 1 mulligan. You were with your old firm for 6 years and clearly put in the time. Now you lateralled and it just isn't a good fit and you want to course correct. Thats an entirely plausible and reasonable story and I doubt many employers would be too concerned by it. Six years with one firm clearly shows you aren't a serial jumper, especially since you are only doing this once (i.e. taking your mulligan). But keep in mind that, wherever you end up after this, be prepared to put in a few years because you don't really get a 2nd do-over.
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Re: Lateralled in November, Hate It, Want to Leave
Anecdotally, this isn’t true from what I’ve seen in the industry.kaiser wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 1:38 pmIn my experience, everyone in biglaw essentially gets 1 mulligan. You were with your old firm for 6 years and clearly put in the time. Now you lateralled and it just isn't a good fit and you want to course correct. Thats an entirely plausible and reasonable story and I doubt many employers would be too concerned by it. Six years with one firm clearly shows you aren't a serial jumper, especially since you are only doing this once (i.e. taking your mulligan). But keep in mind that, wherever you end up after this, be prepared to put in a few years because you don't really get a 2nd do-over.
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Re: Lateralled in November, Hate It, Want to Leave
Seconded, I know multiple people who are on their 4th or 5th firm (specialist practice group). Maybe this is a bit easier to pull off as a specialist since there are fewer people that have the requisite knowledge/experience.cheaptilts wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 1:40 pmAnecdotally, this isn’t true from what I’ve seen in the industry.kaiser wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 1:38 pmIn my experience, everyone in biglaw essentially gets 1 mulligan. You were with your old firm for 6 years and clearly put in the time. Now you lateralled and it just isn't a good fit and you want to course correct. Thats an entirely plausible and reasonable story and I doubt many employers would be too concerned by it. Six years with one firm clearly shows you aren't a serial jumper, especially since you are only doing this once (i.e. taking your mulligan). But keep in mind that, wherever you end up after this, be prepared to put in a few years because you don't really get a 2nd do-over.
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Re: Lateralled in November, Hate It, Want to Leave
Yeah, I think the do-over is very fact specific. It all really depends on what you have to offer and what someone wants and how well you sell yourself. I too know people who’ve moved around a lot. If you do keep moving not because you’re unhappy, but because you can’t keep a job (your bosses are unhappy with you), it might catch up with you - like it becomes harder to get references, their support gets more and more lukewarm, you’re not getting good experience, that kind of thing. But if you are a strong candidate you probably won’t run into such problems. It will depend, but there isn’t a rule that you have to stay at your next gig for X years before trying to move on. (Trying to move doesn’t guarantee you’ll get something so you may be in that job for a while anyway, but if a great opportunity arises you can’t pass on, don’t let the fact that you haven’t been in your current job very long dissuade you.)
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Indeed. It may have been true a couple of years ago but it's not the case currently.cheaptilts wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 1:40 pmAnecdotally, this isn’t true from what I’ve seen in the industry.kaiser wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 1:38 pmIn my experience, everyone in biglaw essentially gets 1 mulligan. You were with your old firm for 6 years and clearly put in the time. Now you lateralled and it just isn't a good fit and you want to course correct. Thats an entirely plausible and reasonable story and I doubt many employers would be too concerned by it. Six years with one firm clearly shows you aren't a serial jumper, especially since you are only doing this once (i.e. taking your mulligan). But keep in mind that, wherever you end up after this, be prepared to put in a few years because you don't really get a 2nd do-over.
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Re: Lateralled in November, Hate It, Want to Leave
Didn't mean to be anonymous.Anonymous User wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 5:31 pmIndeed. It may have been true a couple of years ago but it's not the case currently.cheaptilts wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 1:40 pmAnecdotally, this isn’t true from what I’ve seen in the industry.kaiser wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 1:38 pmIn my experience, everyone in biglaw essentially gets 1 mulligan. You were with your old firm for 6 years and clearly put in the time. Now you lateralled and it just isn't a good fit and you want to course correct. Thats an entirely plausible and reasonable story and I doubt many employers would be too concerned by it. Six years with one firm clearly shows you aren't a serial jumper, especially since you are only doing this once (i.e. taking your mulligan). But keep in mind that, wherever you end up after this, be prepared to put in a few years because you don't really get a 2nd do-over.
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This may be referring to me. I’m at my 4th firm. None of the moves were that difficult. No one actually brought up my short stints at firms. But I also lateraled during a hot lateral market for my niche practice area. I think if the lateral market wasn’t this hot, this would have raised a lot of red flags.eastcoast_iub wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 1:52 pmSeconded, I know multiple people who are on their 4th or 5th firm (specialist practice group). Maybe this is a bit easier to pull off as a specialist since there are fewer people that have the requisite knowledge/experience.cheaptilts wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 1:40 pmAnecdotally, this isn’t true from what I’ve seen in the industry.kaiser wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 1:38 pmIn my experience, everyone in biglaw essentially gets 1 mulligan. You were with your old firm for 6 years and clearly put in the time. Now you lateralled and it just isn't a good fit and you want to course correct. Thats an entirely plausible and reasonable story and I doubt many employers would be too concerned by it. Six years with one firm clearly shows you aren't a serial jumper, especially since you are only doing this once (i.e. taking your mulligan). But keep in mind that, wherever you end up after this, be prepared to put in a few years because you don't really get a 2nd do-over.
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Re: Lateralled in November, Hate It, Want to Leave
OP here. Thanks so much everyone!
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I was at my last job/firm for 5.5 months before quitting to move in-house. Timing was unexpected but I certainly wasn’t going to let some arbitrary time limit keep me from furthering my career. Firm was pissed. Couldn’t care less.
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Re: Lateralled in November, Hate It, Want to Leave
No regrets?Anonymous User wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 11:48 pmI was at my last job/firm for 5.5 months before quitting to move in-house. Timing was unexpected but I certainly wasn’t going to let some arbitrary time limit keep me from furthering my career. Firm was pissed. Couldn’t care less.
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Re: Lateralled in November, Hate It, Want to Leave
None whatsoeverAnonymous User wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 11:52 pmNo regrets?Anonymous User wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 11:48 pmI was at my last job/firm for 5.5 months before quitting to move in-house. Timing was unexpected but I certainly wasn’t going to let some arbitrary time limit keep me from furthering my career. Firm was pissed. Couldn’t care less.
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