1L SA callback to offer ratio?

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1L SA callback to offer ratio?

Post by throwawayaccount1519 » Sat Feb 20, 2021 7:26 pm

I know the 1L summer SA process is, frankly, a pretty random and opaque process. I looked through the forums and saw someone posted a 25 percent offer rate for 1L SA callbacks. But also I saw that stat was from a few years back and I'm not sure if that percentage has changed.

Nowadays, what tends to be the 1L SA callback to offer ratio?

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Re: 1L SA callback to offer ratio?

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throwawayaccount1519 wrote:
Sat Feb 20, 2021 7:26 pm
I know the 1L summer SA process is, frankly, a pretty random and opaque process. I looked through the forums and saw someone posted a 25 percent offer rate for 1L SA callbacks. But also I saw that stat was from a few years back and I'm not sure if that percentage has changed.

Nowadays, what tends to be the 1L SA callback to offer ratio?
Probably lower due to covid and the cost-efficiency of Zoom interviews, if anything. Cb -> offer ratio is usually 30-45% for 2Ls. The rate is a lot lower for 1Ls since there's only a handful of 1L spots.

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Re: 1L SA callback to offer ratio?

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:04 pm

When taking into consideration how much cheaper callbacks have become in the age of Zoom, the callback ratio is probably lower than it was a few years ago. Callbacks, in my experience over zoom, have been like 2 hours max, which means that a firm can set aside a day and go through way more people as opposed to trying to get everyone to the firm and spending half a day with them. The ease of callbacks now paired with the limited 1L spots probably means that callback to offer ratio, at least for 1L positions, is lower than it was a few years ago.

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Re: 1L SA callback to offer ratio?

Post by Anonymous User » Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:17 am

Anonymous User wrote:
Sun Feb 21, 2021 1:24 pm
throwawayaccount1519 wrote:
Sat Feb 20, 2021 7:26 pm
I know the 1L summer SA process is, frankly, a pretty random and opaque process. I looked through the forums and saw someone posted a 25 percent offer rate for 1L SA callbacks. But also I saw that stat was from a few years back and I'm not sure if that percentage has changed.

Nowadays, what tends to be the 1L SA callback to offer ratio?
Probably lower due to covid and the cost-efficiency of Zoom interviews, if anything. Cb -> offer ratio is usually 30-45% for 2Ls. The rate is a lot lower for 1Ls since there's only a handful of 1L spots.
I thought it would be the opposite for 1Ls. At least in my class it seemed like callbacks were a lot rarer for the 1L spots and usually led to getting the offer for a 1L spot. I thought that with fewer spots they just invited fewer people to the office. For example one of the firms I interviewed with was in a major market at a top firm and they said they only invited 3 applicants for a callback. Another firm in another major city flew all of their callback applicants and did an interview day, there were 7 of us total. I do agree though that it's probably less now with all of the zoom interviews, this year they probably interviewed more applicants than they usually would

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Re: 1L SA callback to offer ratio?

Post by Anonymous User » Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:29 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:17 am
Anonymous User wrote:
Sun Feb 21, 2021 1:24 pm
throwawayaccount1519 wrote:
Sat Feb 20, 2021 7:26 pm
I know the 1L summer SA process is, frankly, a pretty random and opaque process. I looked through the forums and saw someone posted a 25 percent offer rate for 1L SA callbacks. But also I saw that stat was from a few years back and I'm not sure if that percentage has changed.

Nowadays, what tends to be the 1L SA callback to offer ratio?
Probably lower due to covid and the cost-efficiency of Zoom interviews, if anything. Cb -> offer ratio is usually 30-45% for 2Ls. The rate is a lot lower for 1Ls since there's only a handful of 1L spots.
I thought it would be the opposite for 1Ls. At least in my class it seemed like callbacks were a lot rarer for the 1L spots and usually led to getting the offer for a 1L spot. I thought that with fewer spots they just invited fewer people to the office. For example one of the firms I interviewed with was in a major market at a top firm and they said they only invited 3 applicants for a callback. Another firm in another major city flew all of their callback applicants and did an interview day, there were 7 of us total. I do agree though that it's probably less now with all of the zoom interviews, this year they probably interviewed more applicants than they usually would
Some firms might be the exception, but anecdotally (talking with friends/associates on the hiring committee) firms usually invite 3-5 1Ls for each 1L SA position. Because there's fewer spots, firms want to recruit the best/diverse talent.

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Re: 1L SA callback to offer ratio?

Post by Anonymous User » Tue Feb 23, 2021 3:37 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:29 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:17 am
Anonymous User wrote:
Sun Feb 21, 2021 1:24 pm
throwawayaccount1519 wrote:
Sat Feb 20, 2021 7:26 pm
I know the 1L summer SA process is, frankly, a pretty random and opaque process. I looked through the forums and saw someone posted a 25 percent offer rate for 1L SA callbacks. But also I saw that stat was from a few years back and I'm not sure if that percentage has changed.

Nowadays, what tends to be the 1L SA callback to offer ratio?
Probably lower due to covid and the cost-efficiency of Zoom interviews, if anything. Cb -> offer ratio is usually 30-45% for 2Ls. The rate is a lot lower for 1Ls since there's only a handful of 1L spots.
I thought it would be the opposite for 1Ls. At least in my class it seemed like callbacks were a lot rarer for the 1L spots and usually led to getting the offer for a 1L spot. I thought that with fewer spots they just invited fewer people to the office. For example one of the firms I interviewed with was in a major market at a top firm and they said they only invited 3 applicants for a callback. Another firm in another major city flew all of their callback applicants and did an interview day, there were 7 of us total. I do agree though that it's probably less now with all of the zoom interviews, this year they probably interviewed more applicants than they usually would
Some firms might be the exception, but anecdotally (talking with friends/associates on the hiring committee) firms usually invite 3-5 1Ls for each 1L SA position. Because there's fewer spots, firms want to recruit the best/diverse talent.
Right, I just figured that was fewer than they bring back for callbacks for 2L spots, but maybe that's not the case I guess?

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Re: 1L SA callback to offer ratio?

Post by Anonymous User » Tue Feb 23, 2021 3:39 pm

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Tue Feb 23, 2021 3:37 pm
Right, I just figured that was fewer than they bring back for callbacks for 2L spots, but maybe that's not the case I guess?
FWIW the callback-to-offer ratio at my school varies between 40% and 100% for firms that take more than a couple of 2Ls.

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Re: 1L SA callback to offer ratio?

Post by Anonymous User » Tue Feb 23, 2021 6:41 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Tue Feb 23, 2021 3:37 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:29 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:17 am
Anonymous User wrote:
Sun Feb 21, 2021 1:24 pm
throwawayaccount1519 wrote:
Sat Feb 20, 2021 7:26 pm
I know the 1L summer SA process is, frankly, a pretty random and opaque process. I looked through the forums and saw someone posted a 25 percent offer rate for 1L SA callbacks. But also I saw that stat was from a few years back and I'm not sure if that percentage has changed.

Nowadays, what tends to be the 1L SA callback to offer ratio?
Probably lower due to covid and the cost-efficiency of Zoom interviews, if anything. Cb -> offer ratio is usually 30-45% for 2Ls. The rate is a lot lower for 1Ls since there's only a handful of 1L spots.
I thought it would be the opposite for 1Ls. At least in my class it seemed like callbacks were a lot rarer for the 1L spots and usually led to getting the offer for a 1L spot. I thought that with fewer spots they just invited fewer people to the office. For example one of the firms I interviewed with was in a major market at a top firm and they said they only invited 3 applicants for a callback. Another firm in another major city flew all of their callback applicants and did an interview day, there were 7 of us total. I do agree though that it's probably less now with all of the zoom interviews, this year they probably interviewed more applicants than they usually would
Some firms might be the exception, but anecdotally (talking with friends/associates on the hiring committee) firms usually invite 3-5 1Ls for each 1L SA position. Because there's fewer spots, firms want to recruit the best/diverse talent.
Right, I just figured that was fewer than they bring back for callbacks for 2L spots, but maybe that's not the case I guess?
It is fewer than what they bring back for 2L cbs but... there are more 2L spots. We're talking about relativity here lol. There are usually 10-20x more 2L spots than 1L spots. Also what the other poster said may be true as well. You can find the general cb --> offer ratios on Chambers Associate, most numbering between 30-50% for 2Ls, but such general data doesn't capture the ratios at specific schools (which may be higher if the firms have established relations with certain schools).

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