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Reed Smith v. Kelley Drye v. Pillsbury

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Dec 14, 2020 10:14 am

All these firms seem fantastic and it's hard to gage which has a better reputation. KD and Pillsbury (NY) Reed Smith (CHI).

I also am not sure what type of law I want to do yet so I am open in that regard.

Anyone have insight on which would be better to work for long-term and industry reputation?

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Re: Reed Smith v. Kelley Drye v. Pillsbury

Post by malibustacy » Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:50 am

Congrats on offers.

Just based on anecdotes, Reed Smith is notorious for no-offering summers. A person I know didn't get an offer and had to work a non-Biglaw job after graduation.

Kelley Drye seems to pay below market, even for 1st years but people seem to like it there.

I've never worked with Pillsbury, apparently its a V100 firm. They seem to start you out at 190k at least.

I'd just pick between the latter two based on what vibes you got and where you want to live.

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Re: Reed Smith v. Kelley Drye v. Pillsbury

Post by Monochromatic Oeuvre » Mon Dec 14, 2020 12:51 pm

None of these firms pay market and they're all known for varying degrees of particularly shitty treatment of associates. Pillsbury is perhaps mildly less shitty than the other two.

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Re: Reed Smith v. Kelley Drye v. Pillsbury

Post by Iowahawk » Mon Dec 14, 2020 7:22 pm

Worth noting that you'll almost certainly make more money in real terms at Reed Smith in Chicago than at a market-paying firm in NYC. My friend there in health care lit, in which it's a major player, seems to like it, but then again he obviously didn't get no-offered.

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Re: Reed Smith v. Kelley Drye v. Pillsbury

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Dec 18, 2020 6:05 pm

Former SA at Reed Smith Chicago. What was said above about the firm not paying market is incorrect - the starting salary is $190,000 in Chicago. Further, the firm is at near a 100% offer rate. I don't know anyone that was no offered.

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Re: Reed Smith v. Kelley Drye v. Pillsbury

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Dec 18, 2020 9:27 pm

All of these firms pay market

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Re: Reed Smith v. Kelley Drye v. Pillsbury

Post by 2013 » Fri Dec 18, 2020 11:25 pm

The above is false. Only Pillsbury may be market. Market isn’t just starting salary. It’s the entire scale.

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Re: Reed Smith v. Kelley Drye v. Pillsbury

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:17 pm

OP here, Are any of these firms/offices definitively worse or better than another on the list, such that it would be ill-advised to accept there or to turn that offer down?

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Re: Reed Smith v. Kelley Drye v. Pillsbury

Post by dyemond » Tue Dec 22, 2020 3:38 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:17 pm
OP here, Are any of these firms/offices definitively worse or better than another on the list, such that it would be ill-advised to accept there or to turn that offer down?
Is Pillsbury's HQ in NY? Based on that I'd probably take Pillsbury, I would not want to be in a satellite office for RS unless you really want to be in Chicago.

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Re: Reed Smith v. Kelley Drye v. Pillsbury

Post by Anonymous User » Tue Dec 22, 2020 4:04 pm

dyemond wrote:
Tue Dec 22, 2020 3:38 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:17 pm
OP here, Are any of these firms/offices definitively worse or better than another on the list, such that it would be ill-advised to accept there or to turn that offer down?
Is Pillsbury's HQ in NY? Based on that I'd probably take Pillsbury, I would not want to be in a satellite office for RS unless you really want to be in Chicago.
Former Pillsbury associate -- the HQ is nominally in SF but NY has been one of the firm's fastest growing offices and the CA offices, if anything, have been a bit moribund.

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Re: Reed Smith v. Kelley Drye v. Pillsbury

Post by Iowahawk » Tue Dec 22, 2020 7:09 pm

dyemond wrote:
Tue Dec 22, 2020 3:38 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:17 pm
OP here, Are any of these firms/offices definitively worse or better than another on the list, such that it would be ill-advised to accept there or to turn that offer down?
Is Pillsbury's HQ in NY? Based on that I'd probably take Pillsbury, I would not want to be in a satellite office for RS unless you really want to be in Chicago.
Reed Smith Chicago is not a satellite, it's one of the firm's four large offices and only a bit shy of its HQ in Pittsburgh

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Re: Reed Smith v. Kelley Drye v. Pillsbury

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Dec 23, 2020 2:22 pm

dyemond wrote:
Tue Dec 22, 2020 3:38 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:17 pm
OP here, Are any of these firms/offices definitively worse or better than another on the list, such that it would be ill-advised to accept there or to turn that offer down?
Is Pillsbury's HQ in NY? Based on that I'd probably take Pillsbury, I would not want to be in a satellite office for RS unless you really want to be in Chicago.
HQ is officially DC, NY is the second largest office.

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Re: Reed Smith v. Kelley Drye v. Pillsbury

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:45 pm

But Pillsbury’s LinkedIn and other websites list New York as HQ

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