HLS EIP 2021 Forum

[Anonymous User]

So if we haven’t heard out of NYC, should we assume it’s a no go?

Maybe firms that interviewed on Friday will reach out tomorrow. Seems unlikely, though...

[Anonymous User]

For what it's worth, I was investigating NYU's similar thread to see how other schools were doing and it seems that although hurting, they're doing better right now than us...

[Anonymous User]

For what it's worth, I was investigating NYU's similar thread to see how other schools were doing and it seems that although hurting, they're doing better right now than us...

I’d hesitate to base anything off of the small sample size of TLS posters. I’d bet less than 5% of EIP participants in any given school have posted in one of these threads, and given the nature of anonymous posts, what may be seen as doing better might actually be a handful of eager anons crowing about vacuuming up CBs.

I will say though, most people I talk to are at around the 3-ish CB range, and there’s an undercurrent of discontent.

[Anonymous User]

For what it's worth, I was investigating NYU's similar thread to see how other schools were doing and it seems that although hurting, they're doing better right now than us...

I’d hesitate to base anything off of the small sample size of TLS posters. I’d bet less than 5% of EIP participants in any given school have posted in one of these threads, and given the nature of anonymous posts, what may be seen as doing better might actually be a handful of eager anons crowing about vacuuming up CBs.

I will say though, most people I talk to are at around the 3-ish CB range, and there’s an undercurrent of discontent.

For which markets do ppl have 3-ish CBs?

Feels like DC has been moving slowly. Still waiting on for some Thursday-Friday firms

[Anonymous User]

For what it's worth, I was investigating NYU's similar thread to see how other schools were doing and it seems that although hurting, they're doing better right now than us...

I’d hesitate to base anything off of the small sample size of TLS posters. I’d bet less than 5% of EIP participants in any given school have posted in one of these threads, and given the nature of anonymous posts, what may be seen as doing better might actually be a handful of eager anons crowing about vacuuming up CBs.

I will say though, most people I talk to are at around the 3-ish CB range, and there’s an undercurrent of discontent.

On the flip side, most people I've talked with in my section have 7-10 callbacks... Obviously this isn't a good sampling technique.

As hard as it is at the moment, people need to put aside their disappointment over # of callbacks and re-calibrate their approaches. I think there's too many people who thought they were good interviewers (when they are average at best) and failed to do enough research into the firms.

Ultimately it's not about the total # of callbacks (or even the total # of offers)... it's about getting that offer you want. But if some people don't step up their research/interviewing real fast, they will be in real danger of striking out, especially in this economy.

[Anonymous User]

Does anyone know if there's a grade cut-off once you get to the callback stage? I've over-performed with callbacks (6Ps, 1 random DS) and am unsure whether to take all the callbacks to hedge my bets or take callbacks/prepare for the firms that I'm interested in but risk ultimately being cut because of my super average transcript.

[Anonymous User]

Does anyone know if there's a grade cut-off once you get to the callback stage? I've over-performed with callbacks (6Ps, 1 random DS) and am unsure whether to take all the callbacks to hedge my bets or take callbacks/prepare for the firms that I'm interested in but risk ultimately being cut because of my super average transcript.

I think the general consensus is that you've usually passed the threshold requirements if you get a callback, and the callback interviews usually come down to fit/vibe/personality and preparation, not credentials. You still might want to hedge if the firms you're interviewing with have a small class or a low callback:offer ratio.

[Anonymous User]

Just got the Akin cb. They are still sending out them.

[Anonymous User]

How do firms notify you of an offer? I.e., is it a phone call or an email? And how long after a callback does it generally take to get an offer?

[Anonymous User]

How do firms notify you of an offer? I.e., is it a phone call or an email? And how long after a callback does it generally take to get an offer?

It depends.
It’s been five weeks since my Latham callback interview, but still no ding or offer.
But some firms had <24 offer rate

[Anonymous User]

How do firms notify you of an offer? I.e., is it a phone call or an email? And how long after a callback does it generally take to get an offer?

Phone call + follow up email, anywhere from during the callback to two weeks after. Depends on the firm.

[Anonymous User]

So no scheduling email from Shearman Sterling recruiting yet?

[Anonymous User]

How do firms notify you of an offer? I.e., is it a phone call or an email? And how long after a callback does it generally take to get an offer?

It depends.
It’s been five weeks since my Latham callback interview, but still no ding or offer.
But some firms had <24 offer rate

Did not think Latham was a firm that did this. I had my call back 7 business days ago. Silence. Obviously, we cannot expect an offer. I'm going to forget about it proceed with my CB's!

[Anonymous User]

So no scheduling email from Shearman Sterling recruiting yet?

Did you already get a CB?

[Anonymous User]

So no scheduling email from Shearman Sterling recruiting yet?

Did you already get a CB?

During the interview. Wouldn't callbacks have gone out by now?

[Anonymous User]

How do firms notify you of an offer? I.e., is it a phone call or an email? And how long after a callback does it generally take to get an offer?

It depends.
It’s been five weeks since my Latham callback interview, but still no ding or offer.
But some firms had <24 offer rate

Did not think Latham was a firm that did this. I had my call back 7 business days ago. Silence. Obviously, we cannot expect an offer. I'm going to forget about it proceed with my CB's!

But to caveat this, I did CB through pre-OCI

[Anonymous User]

How do firms notify you of an offer? I.e., is it a phone call or an email? And how long after a callback does it generally take to get an offer?

It depends.
It’s been five weeks since my Latham callback interview, but still no ding or offer.
But some firms had <24 offer rate

Did not think Latham was a firm that did this. I had my call back 7 business days ago. Silence. Obviously, we cannot expect an offer. I'm going to forget about it proceed with my CB's!

It's probably office-dependent. I received my offer from Latham NYC 2 days after sending updated transcript (also was involved in pre-OCI process)

[Anonymous User]

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[Anonymous User]

Just got the Akin cb. They are still sending out them.

Which office?

[Anonymous User]

Do we think this year was actually down compared to previous years? I'm hoping to make myself feel better for only getting a few (not "top") CBs.

I don't think so - this sentiment is always shared on these forums (check the previous threads). People in my section have done very well, including those at or below median.

While it's easy to feel down and get disappointed, I really encourage you to take the moment and focus on the remaining CBs. Try to figure out where you could improve from your previous interviews and don't be proud to ask for help from OCS/friends/etc. Obviously the margin of error is small with only a few CBs.

[Anonymous User]

Just got the Akin cb. They are still sending out them.

Which office?

NY

[Anonymous User]

Do we think this year was actually down compared to previous years? I'm hoping to make myself feel better for only getting a few (not "top") CBs.

I don't think so - this sentiment is always shared on these forums (check the previous threads). People in my section have done very well, including those at or below median.

While it's easy to feel down and get disappointed, I really encourage you to take the moment and focus on the remaining CBs. Try to figure out where you could improve from your previous interviews and don't be proud to ask for help from OCS/friends/etc. Obviously the margin of error is small with only a few CBs.

Out of curiosity, what is "very well"? Are there a ton of people with +10 cbs in your section?

[Anonymous User]

Do we think this year was actually down compared to previous years? I'm hoping to make myself feel better for only getting a few (not "top") CBs.

I don't think so - this sentiment is always shared on these forums (check the previous threads). People in my section have done very well, including those at or below median.

While it's easy to feel down and get disappointed, I really encourage you to take the moment and focus on the remaining CBs. Try to figure out where you could improve from your previous interviews and don't be proud to ask for help from OCS/friends/etc. Obviously the margin of error is small with only a few CBs.

Out of curiosity, what is "very well"? Are there a ton of people with +10 cbs in your section?

Yeah maybe that wasn't the best choice of words... When I last checked, I think roughly 20% of the section had 10+ CBs. Possible there's more because I didn't' go around asking every individual. Most of these were in NYC, although a few had these CBs in DC (fairly expected if you know who they are...)

However, most people in the section seemed to be in the 6-8 range that OCS mentioned.

[Anonymous User]

What do you guys think the median # of H's were this year?

[Anonymous User]

What do you guys think the median # of H's were this year?

It's probably 4-5. BUT... I think firms placed much more emphasis on 1L fall grades (for obvious reasons).

That's why networking/interviewing was even more crucial this year. In previous years, firms were able to roughly separate students by the raw number of H. Average interviewers were still able to clean up during EIP if they had good enough grades.

But due to P/F in spring, there is more variability and a HUGE clump of people with 0-2 H from 1L Fall. Because it's tougher to separate students via grades, firms had to put more emphasis on people who demonstrated interest, are good interviewers, have WE, etc.