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Re: GPA Cutoffs At Different Firms

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S&C is well-known for going almost down to median here. Latham NY is more significantly selective than S&C NY here.
Oh I understood what you are saying before, but the data above just does not align with your statement above. For example, it seems that Cleary NY, S&C NY are still in the above-median range and I can’t even find Latham NY in the data. Also, your point that students prefer Chi, LA, and DC to NY also makes sense, but again what does that have to do with Latham NY?

If you actually have Latham NY vs other NY v5 call back data, I would love to see it.
Cleary and S&C have 25ths in the low 170.x range so they undoubtedly take some below-median students (170.0 is median, maybe more like 170.1-2). Latham NY is on the list and in the fourth bucket with Cravath, significantly more selective than either. Clearly the NY hierarchy of selectivity at Chicago is different from what was posted before, so school matters, but overall city is much more important than firm for selectivity (DC > Chi/Cali > NY/Tex).
Woops. Sorry I missed that. If true, Latham NY being more grade selective than Cleary NY or S&C NY at Chi is truly very surprising to me (Btw, I am not comparing Latham DC/Chi to NYC v5). At my t14, it’s exactly the opposite, people below median can pretty easily secure offers from Latham NY, but S&C and Cleary will only give callbacks to people with 3.8ish gpa or above.

Also I don’t know how decimals work at UChi, but Latham NY is in 178.0 or above category while Cleary and S&C are in 177.5 or above category. Does 0.5 difference mean “significantly more selective”?
If that is true, you said 170.0 is the median, so I would say Latham NY, Cleary NY, and S&C NY are all in significantly above median range. No? What’s going on here, haha.

All in all, as I said, your point being location matters is well-taken. I am just saying that Latham NY is not more grade selective than Cleary NY or S&C NY at any other schools except UChi (apparently).
The rough buckets miss some nuance, but for 25/75 Latham is 178.1/180.5, S&C is 177.7/180.4, Cleary is 177.7/179.5. I'm not looking to get into arguments about what exactly "significance" means w/ respect to Chicago's grading scale (which is somewhat opaque even to me), but regardless lots of good NY firms, including S&C and Cleary, probably pull from true median or below while Latham probably doesn't given its 25ths. I don't know anything about how firms operate at any other school and and it's perfectly plausible to me that Latham is just unusually picky at Chicago, or Cleary is unusually lax, or whatever, which was my original point.

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Re: GPA Cutoffs At Different Firms

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Sep 14, 2020 8:08 am

Anonymous User wrote:
Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:18 am
Anonymous User wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 11:32 pm
:cry:
Anonymous User wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 8:05 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 6:03 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Sun Sep 13, 2020 11:20 am
S&C is well-known for going almost down to median here. Latham NY is more significantly selective than S&C NY here.
Oh I understood what you are saying before, but the data above just does not align with your statement above. For example, it seems that Cleary NY, S&C NY are still in the above-median range and I can’t even find Latham NY in the data. Also, your point that students prefer Chi, LA, and DC to NY also makes sense, but again what does that have to do with Latham NY?

If you actually have Latham NY vs other NY v5 call back data, I would love to see it.
Cleary and S&C have 25ths in the low 170.x range so they undoubtedly take some below-median students (170.0 is median, maybe more like 170.1-2). Latham NY is on the list and in the fourth bucket with Cravath, significantly more selective than either. Clearly the NY hierarchy of selectivity at Chicago is different from what was posted before, so school matters, but overall city is much more important than firm for selectivity (DC > Chi/Cali > NY/Tex).
Woops. Sorry I missed that. If true, Latham NY being more grade selective than Cleary NY or S&C NY at Chi is truly very surprising to me (Btw, I am not comparing Latham DC/Chi to NYC v5). At my t14, it’s exactly the opposite, people below median can pretty easily secure offers from Latham NY, but S&C and Cleary will only give callbacks to people with 3.8ish gpa or above.

Also I don’t know how decimals work at UChi, but Latham NY is in 178.0 or above category while Cleary and S&C are in 177.5 or above category. Does 0.5 difference mean “significantly more selective”?
If that is true, you said 170.0 is the median, so I would say Latham NY, Cleary NY, and S&C NY are all in significantly above median range. No? What’s going on here, haha.

All in all, as I said, your point being location matters is well-taken. I am just saying that Latham NY is not more grade selective than Cleary NY or S&C NY at any other schools except UChi (apparently).
The rough buckets miss some nuance, but for 25/75 Latham is 178.1/180.5, S&C is 177.7/180.4, Cleary is 177.7/179.5. I'm not looking to get into arguments about what exactly "significance" means w/ respect to Chicago's grading scale (which is somewhat opaque even to me), but regardless lots of good NY firms, including S&C and Cleary, probably pull from true median or below while Latham probably doesn't given its 25ths. I don't know anything about how firms operate at any other school and and it's perfectly plausible to me that Latham is just unusually picky at Chicago, or Cleary is unusually lax, or whatever, which was my original point.
Got it. Dude those numbers make me dizzy lol. But yeah I guess that’s the case.

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