Above median at a lower T14, managed to end up with nothing as a result of a combination of less than ideal bidding and bad luck. I would like to do litigation. I'm ready to move on from whining.
What's the move now? Massmail regional firms? BigLaw firms with big NYC classes that might need bodies? Secondary Markets? Plaintiff side?
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Re: Post-Strikeout, Now What?
Mass mail like crazy. Get to it.
Also, evaluate how much of this is actually “bad luck” or if there are things you can improve: resume, writing, and interview skills. Take ownership of that.
Also, evaluate how much of this is actually “bad luck” or if there are things you can improve: resume, writing, and interview skills. Take ownership of that.
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Re: Post-Strikeout, Now What?
as someone that was in your position, be prepared to maybe transition towards corporate if you wanna try for biglaw 3L. i.e. perhaps plan to take classes that pivot that way/start crafting a narrative as to why it is a good fit for you
3l is need based and most firms can get their quota of litigators from the 2l pool.
also, I agree w/ poster above. the bad luck thing doesn't hold up. not if you're above median at a t14. I was the same, and I was a really bad interviewer. there's always something you should try to suss out and focus on improving, if it's not grades/school.
3l is need based and most firms can get their quota of litigators from the 2l pool.
also, I agree w/ poster above. the bad luck thing doesn't hold up. not if you're above median at a t14. I was the same, and I was a really bad interviewer. there's always something you should try to suss out and focus on improving, if it's not grades/school.
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Re: Post-Strikeout, Now What?
1. Get over litigation. You may get it during 3L, but pursuing it now just diminishes your chances of biglaw period. There are less slots and therefore more selective.
2. Ask OCS if any firms have less callbacks scheduled than they would like.
3. Massmail NYC corporate and regional firms in any market that you conceivably have ties to. Start with NYC corporate first as they'll be looking through early October. Regional firms tend to be more open to off-cycle hiring so save them for 2L if need be. If you're not getting any bites from firms, throw in-house and corporate-related government positions in there.
4. Gear your course selection toward finance, executive compensation/labor, and bankruptcy. Few corporate summers end up wanting to do these areas so firms use 3L hiring to fill these slots. This is generally reflected in what I see on Symplicity.
5. Get someone to go over your interviewing skills at some point during 2L if you haven't done so already. If you've never done a practice interview, then you've never really had a chance to find out if you're a bad interviewer.
6. If you get something for 2L summer, you can trade up to litigation during 3L OCI. If you get something during 3L OCI, accept and keep looking for litigation positions during 3L and renege on the offer if need be.
2. Ask OCS if any firms have less callbacks scheduled than they would like.
3. Massmail NYC corporate and regional firms in any market that you conceivably have ties to. Start with NYC corporate first as they'll be looking through early October. Regional firms tend to be more open to off-cycle hiring so save them for 2L if need be. If you're not getting any bites from firms, throw in-house and corporate-related government positions in there.
4. Gear your course selection toward finance, executive compensation/labor, and bankruptcy. Few corporate summers end up wanting to do these areas so firms use 3L hiring to fill these slots. This is generally reflected in what I see on Symplicity.
5. Get someone to go over your interviewing skills at some point during 2L if you haven't done so already. If you've never done a practice interview, then you've never really had a chance to find out if you're a bad interviewer.
6. If you get something for 2L summer, you can trade up to litigation during 3L OCI. If you get something during 3L OCI, accept and keep looking for litigation positions during 3L and renege on the offer if need be.
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Re: Post-Strikeout, Now What?
Adding to 4: do whatever you can right now to learn about those areas so that you seem legitimately interested. For finance, start reading Matt Levin's newsletter and bloomberg on a daily basis. I credit that newsletter alone with getting me at least 2 callbacks because I could talk intelligently about the financial world.BrainsyK wrote:1. Get over litigation. You may get it during 3L, but pursuing it now just diminishes your chances of biglaw period. There are less slots and therefore more selective.
2. Ask OCS if any firms have less callbacks scheduled than they would like.
3. Massmail NYC corporate and regional firms in any market that you conceivably have ties to. Start with NYC corporate first as they'll be looking through early October. Regional firms tend to be more open to off-cycle hiring so save them for 2L if need be. If you're not getting any bites from firms, throw in-house and corporate-related government positions in there.
4. Gear your course selection toward finance, executive compensation/labor, and bankruptcy. Few corporate summers end up wanting to do these areas so firms use 3L hiring to fill these slots. This is generally reflected in what I see on Symplicity.
5. Get someone to go over your interviewing skills at some point during 2L if you haven't done so already. If you've never done a practice interview, then you've never really had a chance to find out if you're a bad interviewer.
6. If you get something for 2L summer, you can trade up to litigation during 3L OCI. If you get something during 3L OCI, accept and keep looking for litigation positions during 3L and renege on the offer if need be.
I would recommend apply to the CFTC, SEC corporation finance division, and the FTC asap. If you get a biglaw job you can turn them down, but the deadlines are coming up. Those are the government 2L jobs I've seen people successfully leverage into biglaw, but it's by no means easy. You'll need to network your butt off.
Figure out a way to claim ties to as many markets as possible without lying. Try to work in either NY or another major market this Summer to maximize networking.
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