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[Anonymous User]

Several firms said they were expecting an econ crisis. And they are hiring less people than last year. And many firms over hired last year.

[inter-associate]

Several firms said they were expecting an econ crisis. And they are hiring less people than last year. And many firms over hired last year.

All of this may be true, but I wouldn't let it stop you from blanketing every firm in NYC and other markets where you have ties. Once OCI is over the only thing you can control is how many firms you apply to and how quickly you do so. Should definitely have backup plans in the works, but there is no reason you can't keep trying for biglaw while working on other options.

[Anonymous User]

Would you still recommend someone at median at Fordham mass mailing? I did a bunch pre-OCI and didn't really hear anything. I'm still waiting to hear back from two CBs but unsure if that would be best use of time.

[Platopus]

Would you still recommend someone at median at Fordham mass mailing? I did a bunch pre-OCI and didn't really hear anything. I'm still waiting to hear back from two CBs but unsure if that would be best use of time.

Whats the downside? Why wouldnt you mass mail? Theres not much else you can do

[Anonymous User]

Checking in: Lower t-14, K-JD, top ~10%, LR. Have completed twelve callbacks and been rejected by eight so far. Did not think I was an asshat but guess I was wrong about that.

[Anonymous User]

Median, lower T14 w/ substantial WE, 21 screeners, 2 CBs, 1 rejection, 1 still pending.

So far, I’m highly unimpressed with the OCI process and with the effectiveness of the “prestige” of the T14.

[nixy]

Median, lower T14 w/ substantial WE, 21 screeners, 2 CBs, 1 rejection, 1 still pending.

So far, I’m highly unimpressed with the OCI process and with the effectiveness of the “prestige” of the T14.

Respectfully, is the failure to convert out of 21 screeners about the T14 prestige?

[soft blue]

Median, lower T14 w/ substantial WE, 21 screeners, 2 CBs, 1 rejection, 1 still pending.

So far, I’m highly unimpressed with the OCI process and with the effectiveness of the “prestige” of the T14.

Yeah, this sounds like a you problem (in terms of your tone, etc).

[Res Ipsa Loquitter]

Median, lower T14 w/ substantial WE, 21 screeners, 2 CBs, 1 rejection, 1 still pending.

So far, I’m highly unimpressed with the OCI process and with the effectiveness of the “prestige” of the T14.

Your school did get you in front of 21 biglaw firms. That's their end of the deal. But you should still interview like you're a TT student who's thrilled to have gotten the screener. Don't count on school name carrying you to an offer, unless your school is Yale.

[Anonymous User]

Bottom T-14 sitting a bit below median here. Did well enough second semester to cover up the first semester abomination. W/E in investment finance and close ended mutual funds, targeting mainly New York and Boston.

I have had 4 CBs with no rejections, but have not heard back in over a week from three firms. The weird thing is that I'm not getting as much interest from transactional spots as I expected. I want to approach mass mailing a bit differently than OCI. Two main questions:

1. How should I approach mass mailing to highlight my work experience? I have a substantial financial background that I'd assumed would at least provide a slight "bump" to my sub-par GPA, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

2. Are there any other markets I should be targeting that would need corporate or transactional attorneys? Not sure about the west coast or Texas.

[Anonymous User]

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Obligatory advice to all to remember to blanket NYC (especially all of the large class-size firms) and any secondary markets where you have plausible ties. If your bidlist was heavily oriented toward a non-NYC market, now's the time to mass-mail NYC stat.

100% right. It's not over folks, follow this advice. Some offices will be scrambling to get people August and even into September since their candidates rejected them. Happens every year.

What approximate vault ranking does this apply to? Some v10's have massive class sizes but I'm assuming their candidates don't reject them.

Not true -- at Columbia last cycle (so for 2019 SA positions), Skadden gave offers to about 40 students and got about 50% acceptances and Paul, Weiss gave about 50 offers and got 20% acceptances.

Not a single student at Chicago accepted an offer from Cravath last OCI.

[Anonymous User]

Think I'll join. Lower t14, slightly below median. 10 screeners; 2 CBs, 3 ghosts, 5 dings. Both CBs earlier this week--> silence. Still hopeful on the CBs, but anxious af.

[Anonymous User]

Think I'll join. Lower t14, slightly below median. 10 screeners; 2 CBs, 3 ghosts, 5 dings. Both CBs earlier this week--> silence. Still hopeful on the CBs, but anxious af.

Lower t14, top 5%: 10+ screeners, 1CB, no offer.

[Anonymous User]

Not true -- at Columbia last cycle (so for 2019 SA positions), Skadden gave offers to about 40 students and got about 50% acceptances and Paul, Weiss gave about 50 offers and got 20% acceptances.

Not a single student at Chicago accepted an offer from Cravath last OCI.

Well considering that they only offered 10 people this isn’t a huge surprise. They offered 40+ kids last year at CLS and I think roughly half accepted. Not hating on Chicago, just speaks to different priorities amongst the students at both schools.

[Anonymous User]

recently got denied from a mid sized law firm after a cb, how appropriate is it to ask for feedback from the interviewer?

[Anonymous User]

Lower T14, 16 screeners, mostly NY, 1 CB zero offers.

I empathize with a lot of you this sucks.

[cavalier1138]

recently got denied from a mid sized law firm after a cb, how appropriate is it to ask for feedback from the interviewer?

It isn't.

Lick your wounds, and get back to pounding the pavement (electronically, at least).

[Anonymous User]

Would you still recommend someone at median at Fordham mass mailing? I did a bunch pre-OCI and didn't really hear anything. I'm still waiting to hear back from two CBs but unsure if that would be best use of time.

Lower T14 here. Similar situation. 8 Callbacks, 5 rejections so far... It really sucks

[QContinuum]

recently got denied from a mid sized law firm after a cb, how appropriate is it to ask for feedback from the interviewer?

It isn't.

Lick your wounds, and get back to pounding the pavement (electronically, at least).

I'd add that even if you did ask, you're extremely unlikely to get any actual/helpful feedback. BigLawyers are extraordinarily risk-averse and are generally not going to start telling candidates why they were dinged. You're most likely to hear some variation of "no comment"/"can't comment" or "*mumble* *mumble* fit *mumble*".

[notinbiglaw]

It’s probably a waste of time but once in a blue moon you get something useful.

[Big Red]

Bottom T-14 sitting a bit below median here. Did well enough second semester to cover up the first semester abomination. W/E in investment finance and close ended mutual funds, targeting mainly New York and Boston.

I have had 4 CBs with no rejections, but have not heard back in over a week from three firms. The weird thing is that I'm not getting as much interest from transactional spots as I expected. I want to approach mass mailing a bit differently than OCI. Two main questions:

1. How should I approach mass mailing to highlight my work experience? I have a substantial financial background that I'd assumed would at least provide a slight "bump" to my sub-par GPA, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

2. Are there any other markets I should be targeting that would need corporate or transactional attorneys? Not sure about the west coast or Texas.

TX is pretty hot right now for corporate, that being said mass mailing isn't a "targeting" game - need to throw that resume everywhere you can.

[Anonymous User]

Checking in. Median at a T13. 6 callbacks. 2 dings, silence from 3, and 1 left to go. I have no idea where to go from here. I'm going to graduate with $120k in debt with no way to ever pay it off. I would rather die than be forced into shitlaw. I don't want to drop out because I like law school and want to be a lawyer, but it's starting to look like dropping out or death are my only two options at this point.

[addie1412]

Checking in. Median at a T13. 6 callbacks. 2 dings, silence from 3, and 1 left to go. I have no idea where to go from here. I'm going to graduate with $120k in debt with no way to ever pay it off. I would rather die than be forced into shitlaw. I don't want to drop out because I like law school and want to be a lawyer, but it's starting to look like dropping out or death are my only two options at this point.

Has 4 opportunities left still to get a biglaw offer and way less debt than many who are in the $200-300k range. Says his/her only options are death and dropping out. Wants to be a lawyer but would rather die than be forced into "shitlaw."

jfc get a grip

[Anonymous User]

Bottom T-14 sitting a bit below median here. Did well enough second semester to cover up the first semester abomination. W/E in investment finance and close ended mutual funds, targeting mainly New York and Boston.

I have had 4 CBs with no rejections, but have not heard back in over a week from three firms. The weird thing is that I'm not getting as much interest from transactional spots as I expected. I want to approach mass mailing a bit differently than OCI. Two main questions:

1. How should I approach mass mailing to highlight my work experience? I have a substantial financial background that I'd assumed would at least provide a slight "bump" to my sub-par GPA, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

2. Are there any other markets I should be targeting that would need corporate or transactional attorneys? Not sure about the west coast or Texas.

TX is pretty hot right now for corporate, that being said mass mailing isn't a "targeting" game - need to throw that resume everywhere you can.

Lot of the TX firms are full. Pretty large cut in class size apparently for firms who over-hired last year.

[Anonymous User]

Bottom T-14 sitting a bit below median here. Did well enough second semester to cover up the first semester abomination. W/E in investment finance and close ended mutual funds, targeting mainly New York and Boston.

I have had 4 CBs with no rejections, but have not heard back in over a week from three firms. The weird thing is that I'm not getting as much interest from transactional spots as I expected. I want to approach mass mailing a bit differently than OCI. Two main questions:

1. How should I approach mass mailing to highlight my work experience? I have a substantial financial background that I'd assumed would at least provide a slight "bump" to my sub-par GPA, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

2. Are there any other markets I should be targeting that would need corporate or transactional attorneys? Not sure about the west coast or Texas.

TX is pretty hot right now for corporate, that being said mass mailing isn't a "targeting" game - need to throw that resume everywhere you can.

Lot of the TX firms are full. Pretty large cut in class size apparently for firms who over-hired last year.

Any idea which firms overhired? My firm seemed to have a larger class size than usual, which makes me nervous about being pushed out