Apply to position without "required" years Forum

(On Campus Interviews, Summer Associate positions, Firm Reviews, Tips, ...)
Forum rules
Anonymous Posting

Anonymous posting is only appropriate when you are revealing sensitive employment related information about a firm, job, etc. You may anonymously respond on topic to these threads. Unacceptable uses include: harassing another user, joking around, testing the feature, or other things that are more appropriate in the lounge.

Failure to follow these rules will get you outed, warned, or banned.
Anonymous User
Posts: 432502
Joined: Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:32 am

Apply to position without "required" years

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:36 pm

Is it worth applying to positions that require 3-5 years of litigation experience if I only have 1-2 years? Will firms be angry/frustrated with an application that may waste their time if the requisite years aren't there?

Thanks.

icansortofmath

Bronze
Posts: 228
Joined: Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:49 pm

Re: Apply to position without "required" years

Post by icansortofmath » Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:54 pm

I was applying to those during 3L and some led to offers.

So in short, no. When HR gets your resume they will just do whatever they gonna do. Worst case partner never sees your resume.

Lawman1865

Bronze
Posts: 115
Joined: Sun Jul 14, 2019 7:30 pm

Re: Apply to position without "required" years

Post by Lawman1865 » Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:58 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Is it worth applying to positions that require 3-5 years of litigation experience if I only have 1-2 years? Will firms be angry/frustrated with an application that may waste their time if the requisite years aren't there?

Thanks.
From what I understand, unless it has hard/strict language cutting you off, you can apply to jobs where you're only 1, maybe 2 years off. Firms sometimes throw out these numbers, especially the smaller ones, with a "general" idea of what they're looking for. Ultimately, when it comes to a job search you have to take every opportunity and if the position seems like a good fit otherwise, then I think it's worth submitting the app on the chance that they give you the interview. I don't think they'd get pissed off as long as you don't followup too much or bother them with updates.

Good luck

User avatar
CardozoLaw09

Gold
Posts: 2232
Joined: Sat Aug 28, 2010 1:58 pm

Re: Apply to position without "required" years

Post by CardozoLaw09 » Wed Jul 24, 2019 9:59 pm

icansortofmath wrote:I was applying to those during 3L and some led to offers.

So in short, no. When HR gets your resume they will just do whatever they gonna do. Worst case partner never sees your resume.
So don't you mean "in short, yes?"

icansortofmath

Bronze
Posts: 228
Joined: Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:49 pm

Re: Apply to position without "required" years

Post by icansortofmath » Wed Jul 24, 2019 10:01 pm

Was answering the second question

Want to continue reading?

Register now to search topics and post comments!

Absolutely FREE!


s1m4

Bronze
Posts: 302
Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:04 pm

Re: Apply to position without "required" years

Post by s1m4 » Thu Jul 25, 2019 1:17 am

Just had a nice laugh imagining my partner sitting on his leather chair in his reading glasses then turning red and throwing and throwing OPs resume on the floor "this is an outrage!!!"

Anonymous User
Posts: 432502
Joined: Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:32 am

Re: Apply to position without "required" years

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:14 am

Go for it.

I was 1.5 years in and applied to a job at Morgan Lewis that wanted a 3-4 year and they still gave me a screener. The partner said off the bat that the other partners may not be open to hiring someone they need to train, but he wanted to interview me regardless just in case.

It didn’t materialize, but wanted to give the anecdote that large firms are open to more junior associates even if they have a specific desired class year posted.

Flarmanarnar

New
Posts: 45
Joined: Fri Dec 16, 2016 5:55 pm

Re: Apply to position without "required" years

Post by Flarmanarnar » Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:38 am

Could a 3L reasonably apply to a job posting that requires 1-3 years?

2013

Silver
Posts: 931
Joined: Thu Jan 31, 2013 2:29 am

Re: Apply to position without "required" years

Post by 2013 » Thu Jul 25, 2019 8:44 am

Flarmanarnar wrote:Could a 3L reasonably apply to a job posting that requires 1-3 years?
Depends. If you’re currently a rising 3L, probably not because they’re hiring for an immediate need.

If it’s in May/June, then possibly. Still they’re taking a risk because you haven’t taken/passed the bar, so it isn’t too likely.

Want to continue reading?

Register for access!

Did I mention it was FREE ?


User avatar
blackmamba8

Bronze
Posts: 406
Joined: Thu Sep 08, 2016 2:53 pm

Re: Apply to position without "required" years

Post by blackmamba8 » Thu Jul 25, 2019 9:26 am

The worst thing they can do is so no. If you don't apply then you're saying no for them. I say go for it.

Lawman1865

Bronze
Posts: 115
Joined: Sun Jul 14, 2019 7:30 pm

Re: Apply to position without "required" years

Post by Lawman1865 » Thu Jul 25, 2019 9:39 am

Flarmanarnar wrote:Could a 3L reasonably apply to a job posting that requires 1-3 years?
The advice I was given was to go for those positions even as a 3L. I suggest being strategic in how much time you spend on it (don't write an entire cover letter if you can help it) but again, the key here is to cast a wide net. Like the other poster said, probably a better bet towards the end of the year but if it doesn't take too much time, doesn't hurt to apply and maybe they'll be interested.

notinbiglaw

Bronze
Posts: 280
Joined: Thu Jul 25, 2019 9:05 am

Re: Apply to position without "required" years

Post by notinbiglaw » Thu Jul 25, 2019 9:49 am

I treated it as a slightly improved form of mass mailing.

I honestly don’t remember if any ended with offers but I definitely got some interviews from applying listings for “alumnus.”

JOThompson

Silver
Posts: 1391
Joined: Sun Aug 02, 2009 3:16 am

Re: Apply to position without "required" years

Post by JOThompson » Thu Jul 25, 2019 4:50 pm

For government jobs, especially anything federal, it's not worth applying unless you meet the stated requirements. If they are seeking someone with 5 years of experience, but you have 4 years in a high-intensity / heavy trial caseload environment, it's not going to make up for the fact that you're a year short. That's my experience with probably 100 applications (70% federal I'd say) since graduating law school in on 2013.

Register now!

Resources to assist law school applicants, students & graduates.

It's still FREE!


Post Reply Post Anonymous Reply  

Return to “Legal Employment”