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Hangley Aronchick Philly

Post by Anonymous User » Wed May 30, 2018 5:03 pm

I have a CB with them coming up. Any thoughts/opinions on this firm? Would really appreciate any insight here. Thanks.

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Re: Hangley Aronchick Philly

Post by Anonymous User » Thu May 31, 2018 10:40 am

Anyone? They are a boutique, but thought someone might have some insight.

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Re: Hangley Aronchick Philly

Post by PotatoSalad » Thu May 31, 2018 12:59 pm

Small, seems like most young people roll off clerkships. Suprisingly prestigious schools for philly IMO. Particularly for younger associates.

I would guess quality and substantive work opportunities.

Chambers associates pegs starting salary at $135k. Which is low in my opinion since most biglaw firms have moved up to $160-180k range in philly after holding at $145k for many years is my understanding. I wonder if the information is just dated. However $135k seemed about right for the non Amlaw200 firms in philly.

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Re: Hangley Aronchick Philly

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PotatoSalad wrote:Small, seems like most young people roll off clerkships. Suprisingly prestigious schools for philly IMO. Particularly for younger associates.

I would guess quality and substantive work opportunities.

Chambers associates pegs starting salary at $135k. Which is low in my opinion since most biglaw firms have moved up to $160-180k range in philly after holding at $145k for many years is my understanding. I wonder if the information is just dated. However $135k seemed about right for the non Amlaw200 firms in philly.

CB is probably your chance to learn more about the firm than anyone on TLS can tell you
Cool, that makes sense. I appreciate the insight. 135k is a bit low. Vault has them at 150k, which sounds about right for Philly. Yeah, I guess I'll have to ask them all these questions at the CB.

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Re: Hangley Aronchick Philly

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Sorry for necroing—anyone know what they pay nowadays?

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Re: Hangley Aronchick Philly

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Sorry for necroing—anyone know what they pay nowadays?
I have no idea. This was my post, actually, from 7 years ago. I'm still in Philly. I think I dodged a bullet personally. Seems like a place that sounds good if you're into prestige but might not really get you anywhere after. I'm involved in a lot of Philly things, and I never hear their name pop up for anything. FWIW. Perhaps I'm just salty because they didn't give me an offer.

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Re: Hangley Aronchick Philly

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Lacepiece23 wrote:
Mon Jun 23, 2025 10:10 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Sat Jun 21, 2025 8:36 pm
Sorry for necroing—anyone know what they pay nowadays?
I have no idea. This was my post, actually, from 7 years ago. I'm still in Philly. I think I dodged a bullet personally. Seems like a place that sounds good if you're into prestige but might not really get you anywhere after. I'm involved in a lot of Philly things, and I never hear their name pop up for anything. FWIW. Perhaps I'm just salty because they didn't give me an offer.
Would love your impression of the Philly market for post-clerkship applicants, especially smaller/boutique firms. Which ones would you tell yourself seven years ago to take a close look at?

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Re: Hangley Aronchick Philly

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Sorry for necroing—anyone know what they pay nowadays?
Which Philly firms/boutiques would you recommend / are known for good work product?

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Re: Hangley Aronchick Philly

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Jun 25, 2025 8:08 pm

Lacepiece23 wrote:
Mon Jun 23, 2025 10:10 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Sat Jun 21, 2025 8:36 pm
Sorry for necroing—anyone know what they pay nowadays?
I have no idea. This was my post, actually, from 7 years ago. I'm still in Philly. I think I dodged a bullet personally. Seems like a place that sounds good if you're into prestige but might not really get you anywhere after. I'm involved in a lot of Philly things, and I never hear their name pop up for anything. FWIW. Perhaps I'm just salty because they didn't give me an offer.
Plenty of big deal Philly lawyers first made partner at Hangley Aronchick. Off the top of my head, I can think of a recent City Solicitor (not assistant) and a sitting Third Circuit judge. It's a very well-respected firm.

They do pay below market, though I'm not sure how much. Seems like better odds of partnership than the few market-paying shops in town, though.

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Re: Hangley Aronchick Philly

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Jun 25, 2025 8:21 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Tue Jun 24, 2025 8:36 am
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Sat Jun 21, 2025 8:36 pm
Sorry for necroing—anyone know what they pay nowadays?
Which Philly firms/boutiques would you recommend / are known for good work product?
For defense-side litigation, the best are Dechert and Morgan Lewis. Dechert's Supreme Court practice is growing, if you have the credentials for that. Morgan Lewis is maybe slightly less of a slog for partnership and probably has more local clients (those things may be related).
Kirkland recently opened up shop and has been hiring in the products/mass torts space. The lawyers they have been hiring are excellent. Presumably the work product will be as well.
Faegre is very good and actually makes partners of its associates. Both of those items are also true for Hangley.
Cozen might also be worth looking at, though their mix of work is not for me.

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Re: Hangley Aronchick Philly

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Anonymous User wrote:
Wed Jun 25, 2025 8:21 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Tue Jun 24, 2025 8:36 am
Anonymous User wrote:
Sat Jun 21, 2025 8:36 pm
Sorry for necroing—anyone know what they pay nowadays?
Which Philly firms/boutiques would you recommend / are known for good work product?
For defense-side litigation, the best are Dechert and Morgan Lewis. Dechert's Supreme Court practice is growing, if you have the credentials for that. Morgan Lewis is maybe slightly less of a slog for partnership and probably has more local clients (those things may be related).
Kirkland recently opened up shop and has been hiring in the products/mass torts space. The lawyers they have been hiring are excellent. Presumably the work product will be as well.
Faegre is very good and actually makes partners of its associates. Both of those items are also true for Hangley.
Cozen might also be worth looking at, though their mix of work is not for me.
I’d add Holland & Knight. They lay market.

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Re: Hangley Aronchick Philly

Post by Lacepiece23 » Thu Jun 26, 2025 12:52 am

Anonymous User wrote:
Tue Jun 24, 2025 8:36 am
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Sat Jun 21, 2025 8:36 pm
Sorry for necroing—anyone know what they pay nowadays?
Which Philly firms/boutiques would you recommend / are known for good work product?
I’m biased because I’m a plaintiffs lawyer but if it were me, I’d shoot for the PI shops. They make more money than biglaw partners, many even at the associate level do.

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Re: Hangley Aronchick Philly

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Jun 26, 2025 8:51 am

Hangley is a fairly different experience than the big law shops that are mentioned above. From what I understand, the trade off is essentially below market pay for better hours, more substantive experience, and better partnership prospects.

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Re: Hangley Aronchick Philly

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Hangley is a fairly different experience than the big law shops that are mentioned above. From what I understand, the trade off is essentially below market pay for better hours, more substantive experience, and better partnership prospects.
This is appealing to me, and I assume many others. Do you (or anyone) know how much below market or how much better hours?

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Re: Hangley Aronchick Philly

Post by Lacepiece23 » Sat Jun 28, 2025 4:19 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Sat Jun 28, 2025 2:54 am
Anonymous User wrote:
Thu Jun 26, 2025 8:51 am
Hangley is a fairly different experience than the big law shops that are mentioned above. From what I understand, the trade off is essentially below market pay for better hours, more substantive experience, and better partnership prospects.
This is appealing to me, and I assume many others. Do you (or anyone) know how much below market or how much better hours?
If that’s appealing to you, I’d go for it. When I did my CB, people did seem to feel it was a good place to work. I glanced at their website and it seems they’ve had trouble in recent years attracting the same prestige of associate, likely because market comp exploded since I interviewed.

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