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I won't say exactly what office, but I'm with one of the west-side offices. What about you?Anonymous User wrote:I interviewed w/ ICE too in January, do you mind sharing what office you'll be working at?
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I’m interested in ICE because I’m interested in national security law and helping to keep our country safe. If that makes anyone would like to work for the government a bad person in your opinion, I’m sorry to hear it.Anonymous User wrote:Just curious what inspires someone to want to join DHS ICE etc.? Do you think you can make a difference from the inside vis prosecutorial discretion or are you just a bad person?
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Other parts of the job include national security (extraditing terrorists), human rights abuses (extraditing war criminals), homeland security investigations (I heard it's largely targeting human trafficking), writing memos for Congress (not sure how true this is), employment law, cyber security law, collateral opportunities to the USAO, etc etc etc. Your duties can vary.
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Yeah because breaking up families and shitting on the poor is sooo christianHoosier2 wrote:Don’t agree politically = bad person? Sounds like a winning argument.
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minnbills wrote:Yeah because breaking up families and shitting on the poor is sooo christianHoosier2 wrote:Don’t agree politically = bad person? Sounds like a winning argument.
Some of the worst people I know are christians. Some of the best people I know are atheists. Not really sure why you introduced that here, unless it was sarcasm I missed or something.
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Anonymous User wrote:Just curious what inspires someone to want to join DHS ICE etc.? Do you think you can make a difference from the inside vis prosecutorial discretion or are you just a bad person?
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Is every defense attorney who defends a rapist a scumbag also, in your view? Intuitively, a rapist strikes me as blatantly worse than an ice agent (but maybe that’s just me). Using your logic, wouldn’t that make any attorney who reps a company that does something that doesn’t line up with your liberal view of social Justice a scumbag also? Does everybody who doesn’t do some aclu-type PI deserve to burn?minnbills wrote:Yeah because breaking up families and shitting on the poor is sooo christianHoosier2 wrote:Don’t agree politically = bad person? Sounds like a winning argument.
I’m not saying I agree or disagree with you about whether what ice does is good or bad...I’m just trying to get to the heart of your rationale for calling OP a scumbag.
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Any idea how much discretion she has to be like nah I’m gonna assent to this one and let this guy stay, similar to state prosecutors in many jurisdictions?abogadesq wrote:I have a friend of a friend who does this in California. Basically, your arguing for the deportation of individuals in immigration court. She sounded pretty miserable, but it pays up to GS-15 I believe, and most nonsupervisory attorney jobs max out at GS-14.
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Maybe I can answer this. I was a former DHS attorney and state prosecutor. A DHS attorney's discretion was highly dependent on each local office. For our office (a progressive city), we had a lot of discretion; more than the state prosecutor's office. We would only remove someone from the United States when they were a real danger to the public (gang members, war criminals, etc.) We did everything in our power to keep families together, especially if they were not a danger to society, and really the culture of our office was to prevent such things from happening.objctnyrhnr wrote:Any idea how much discretion she has to be like nah I’m gonna assent to this one and let this guy stay, similar to state prosecutors in many jurisdictions?abogadesq wrote:I have a friend of a friend who does this in California. Basically, your arguing for the deportation of individuals in immigration court. She sounded pretty miserable, but it pays up to GS-15 I believe, and most nonsupervisory attorney jobs max out at GS-14.
As another poster mentioned, while immigration work is a bulk of your work, you are working on various other things too: HSI, USAO, National Security, and Human Rights Abuses.
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Anon, what do you do now? What are some common exit options for this position?Anonymous User wrote:Maybe I can answer this. I was a former DHS attorney and state prosecutor. A DHS attorney's discretion was highly dependent on each local office. For our office (a progressive city), we had a lot of discretion; more than the state prosecutor's office. We would only remove someone from the United States when they were a real danger to the public (gang members, war criminals, etc.) We did everything in our power to keep families together, especially if they were not a danger to society, and really the culture of our office was to prevent such things from happening.objctnyrhnr wrote:Any idea how much discretion she has to be like nah I’m gonna assent to this one and let this guy stay, similar to state prosecutors in many jurisdictions?abogadesq wrote:I have a friend of a friend who does this in California. Basically, your arguing for the deportation of individuals in immigration court. She sounded pretty miserable, but it pays up to GS-15 I believe, and most nonsupervisory attorney jobs max out at GS-14.
As another poster mentioned, while immigration work is a bulk of your work, you are working on various other things too: HSI, USAO, National Security, and Human Rights Abuses.
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I am a prosecutor again, but for the city. But that was because I never wanted to be a DHS attorney, and so I aimed to apply for different prosecutorial positions.objctnyrhnr wrote:Anon, what do you do now? What are some common exit options for this position?Anonymous User wrote:Maybe I can answer this. I was a former DHS attorney and state prosecutor. A DHS attorney's discretion was highly dependent on each local office. For our office (a progressive city), we had a lot of discretion; more than the state prosecutor's office. We would only remove someone from the United States when they were a real danger to the public (gang members, war criminals, etc.) We did everything in our power to keep families together, especially if they were not a danger to society, and really the culture of our office was to prevent such things from happening.objctnyrhnr wrote:Any idea how much discretion she has to be like nah I’m gonna assent to this one and let this guy stay, similar to state prosecutors in many jurisdictions?abogadesq wrote:I have a friend of a friend who does this in California. Basically, your arguing for the deportation of individuals in immigration court. She sounded pretty miserable, but it pays up to GS-15 I believe, and most nonsupervisory attorney jobs max out at GS-14.
As another poster mentioned, while immigration work is a bulk of your work, you are working on various other things too: HSI, USAO, National Security, and Human Rights Abuses.
Most people are lifers. Most came from other fed agencies, former immigration defense attorneys, and some came from DA offices/biglaw. Some people go on to become DAs, and others get hired with the agencies they detail at (AUSA, and there was an agency dealing with human rights in DC, and many others.) A lot of people go on to become immigration defense attorneys and immigration judges.
If you're just starting out as a DHS attorney, I would try to work with the national security unit, human rights unit, homeland security investigations, or the USAO.
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