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Best DC Firms for Making Partner
Title pretty much says it all. My SO and I are moving to DC and are trying to figure out which firms provide the best chance to make partner (I know, I know, the odds are not great at any firm). FWIW, senior litigation associate at a V5 in NYC.
Inside info on any firm would be helpful. Mainly focused on big firms, but could be open to a litigation boutique if it's the right fit. Also focused on general commercial litigation and/or antitrust.
Inside info on any firm would be helpful. Mainly focused on big firms, but could be open to a litigation boutique if it's the right fit. Also focused on general commercial litigation and/or antitrust.
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Williams & Connolly
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My impression was that they don't take senior laterals. Is that right?grand inquisitor wrote:Williams & Connolly
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No inside info, but you should work with a headhunter. Your situation comes up quite a bit.
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Your own
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As a senior lateral, are you potentially bringing any clients? That could make a big difference in finding a firm willing to entertain partnership.
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Lol a senior associate is not bringing clients from a V5UVA2B wrote:As a senior lateral, are you potentially bringing any clients? That could make a big difference in finding a firm willing to entertain partnership.
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You're probably right, but it's not insane to think a senior associate could bring work for the firm, which would directly factor into partnership. Even at a V5 (to the extent that even matters), senior associates can develop relationships that could lead to carrying the business to a new firm, so long as that firm can continue to provide the type of service they need.Johann wrote:Lol a senior associate is not bringing clients from a V5UVA2B wrote:As a senior lateral, are you potentially bringing any clients? That could make a big difference in finding a firm willing to entertain partnership.
It's disingenuously dismissive to think a senior associate at a big firm couldn't possibly gain the trust of a client where they would migrate with that associate. That sort of business poaching happens all the time.
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Not bringing any clients, no.UVA2B wrote:You're probably right, but it's not insane to think a senior associate could bring work for the firm, which would directly factor into partnership. Even at a V5 (to the extent that even matters), senior associates can develop relationships that could lead to carrying the business to a new firm, so long as that firm can continue to provide the type of service they need.Johann wrote:Lol a senior associate is not bringing clients from a V5UVA2B wrote:As a senior lateral, are you potentially bringing any clients? That could make a big difference in finding a firm willing to entertain partnership.
It's disingenuously dismissive to think a senior associate at a big firm couldn't possibly gain the trust of a client where they would migrate with that associate. That sort of business poaching happens all the time.
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New and growing boutiques are the answer.
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Nebby wrote:Your own
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The right boutique will probably give the best chance, with new and growing ones probably on the higher side of that chance. Some boutiques never make anyone partner since they want the power and money concentrated in the current partners; others hire with the mentality that they'd like to offer partnership to every associate hired as long as they stay there long enough and don't suck.Desert Fox wrote:New and growing boutiques are the answer.
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By partner, do you mean equity?
If you're referring to just title, I know a lot of DC firms that have high % chances of making "counsel."
If you're referring to just title, I know a lot of DC firms that have high % chances of making "counsel."
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Yes, I'm primarily talking about equity partner. But, for the sake of completeness, I'd be interested to hear about firms with a high chance at counsel as well.gaddockteeg wrote:By partner, do you mean equity?
If you're referring to just title, I know a lot of DC firms that have high % chances of making "counsel."
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Anecdotal and very likely incorrect info:
First, Williams / Connolly and Covington come to mind. I’ve also heard positive things about the chances of equity at Jenner Block as well as Arnold Porter KS. Jenner’s partner track is super long from what I’ve heard — varying levels of nonequity partnership before equity.
As for counsel, obvious answers are Kirkland and Akin Gump which treat “counsel” and “non equity partner” as basically senior associates.
Also BuckleySandler. My friend is there and I think over 75% of senior associates make counsel. Counsel to Partner is another story though.
Lastly ive heard of decent chances at equity at arent fox too.
First, Williams / Connolly and Covington come to mind. I’ve also heard positive things about the chances of equity at Jenner Block as well as Arnold Porter KS. Jenner’s partner track is super long from what I’ve heard — varying levels of nonequity partnership before equity.
As for counsel, obvious answers are Kirkland and Akin Gump which treat “counsel” and “non equity partner” as basically senior associates.
Also BuckleySandler. My friend is there and I think over 75% of senior associates make counsel. Counsel to Partner is another story though.
Lastly ive heard of decent chances at equity at arent fox too.
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Out of curiosity, how many dc-based firms would you put in this category?Desert Fox wrote:New and growing boutiques are the answer.
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Williams & Connolly doesn't take laterals, right? That's what I assumed. I know once in a long while they'll take a lateral partner, but I thought lateral associates was never a thing.Anonymous User wrote:Anecdotal and very likely incorrect info:
First, Williams / Connolly and Covington come to mind. I’ve also heard positive things about the chances of equity at Jenner Block as well as Arnold Porter KS. Jenner’s partner track is super long from what I’ve heard — varying levels of nonequity partnership before equity.
As for counsel, obvious answers are Kirkland and Akin Gump which treat “counsel” and “non equity partner” as basically senior associates.
Also BuckleySandler. My friend is there and I think over 75% of senior associates make counsel. Counsel to Partner is another story though.
Lastly ive heard of decent chances at equity at arent fox too.
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I’ve seen some Cravath/Davis Polk/Skadden/etc first- and (on at least one occasion) second-years lateral to W&C without coming off of clerkships. I haven’t seen a lateral mid level though. And def not a senior associate. Only two lateral partners ever at the firm were a tax guy & someone from the SG’s officeAnonymous User wrote:Williams & Connolly doesn't take laterals, right? That's what I assumed. I know once in a long while they'll take a lateral partner, but I thought lateral associates was never a thing.Anonymous User wrote:Anecdotal and very likely incorrect info:
First, Williams / Connolly and Covington come to mind. I’ve also heard positive things about the chances of equity at Jenner Block as well as Arnold Porter KS. Jenner’s partner track is super long from what I’ve heard — varying levels of nonequity partnership before equity.
As for counsel, obvious answers are Kirkland and Akin Gump which treat “counsel” and “non equity partner” as basically senior associates.
Also BuckleySandler. My friend is there and I think over 75% of senior associates make counsel. Counsel to Partner is another story though.
Lastly ive heard of decent chances at equity at arent fox too.
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Pretty sure the stated policy is that they won't take laterals after the fourth year. Not sure how that works in practice thoughAnonymous User wrote:I’ve seen some Cravath/Davis Polk/Skadden/etc first- and (on at least one occasion) second-years lateral to W&C without coming off of clerkships. I haven’t seen a lateral mid level though. And def not a senior associate. Only two lateral partners ever at the firm were a tax guy & someone from the SG’s officeAnonymous User wrote:Williams & Connolly doesn't take laterals, right? That's what I assumed. I know once in a long while they'll take a lateral partner, but I thought lateral associates was never a thing.Anonymous User wrote:Anecdotal and very likely incorrect info:
First, Williams / Connolly and Covington come to mind. I’ve also heard positive things about the chances of equity at Jenner Block as well as Arnold Porter KS. Jenner’s partner track is super long from what I’ve heard — varying levels of nonequity partnership before equity.
As for counsel, obvious answers are Kirkland and Akin Gump which treat “counsel” and “non equity partner” as basically senior associates.
Also BuckleySandler. My friend is there and I think over 75% of senior associates make counsel. Counsel to Partner is another story though.
Lastly ive heard of decent chances at equity at arent fox too.
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Very interesting, thanks. Anyone else?Anonymous User wrote:Anecdotal and very likely incorrect info:
First, Williams / Connolly and Covington come to mind. I’ve also heard positive things about the chances of equity at Jenner Block as well as Arnold Porter KS. Jenner’s partner track is super long from what I’ve heard — varying levels of nonequity partnership before equity.
As for counsel, obvious answers are Kirkland and Akin Gump which treat “counsel” and “non equity partner” as basically senior associates.
Also BuckleySandler. My friend is there and I think over 75% of senior associates make counsel. Counsel to Partner is another story though.
Lastly ive heard of decent chances at equity at arent fox too.
I suppose it would also be helpful to know which firms provide slim/no chance at equity partner.
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