executive llm vs regular llm Forum

[Anonymous User]

I'm considering getting an LLM. For many, I believe the genreal idea that these aren't helpful enough to outweight the costs but I think I've weighed pros/cons and I think there's a lot of value in one for my goals: I'm currently an AUSA in a secondary market. I want to get into my office, or (preferably) another USAO office's white collar group; mentors, both personal and within the office, have told me that getting an LLM in securities or tax is a nice way solidify credentials to do that. I've also got some interest in making the move to main justice or another federal regulator (probably SEC).

An executive LLM (online) would be a lot easier to manage with my full-time job but I'm worreid about the public perception -- especcially if I transfer offices or go to another agency. Any thoughts? I've asked around but unfrotunately, my office is largely older folks and most of them have never even heard of online LLMS before. I'm looking at Georgetown online LLM.

[cavalier1138]

I mean, not that I don't trust your mentors, but did they point to any people in your desired position with LLMs?

[Anonymous User]

I mean, not that I don't trust your mentors, but did they point to any people in your desired position with LLMs?

Yeah, just as an example, one of my mentors (family friend) is theformer US attorney in DC with said LLM.

[Anonymous User]

For what it's worth, there may be easier/less expensive ways to accomplish your goal.

I'm a white collar AUSA in a major metro (though probably considered a secondary market), and I don't have an LLM. I don't believe any of my colleagues in the white collar unit have LLMs either.

I'm guessing offices may vary pretty drastically in that regard. It might be easier to just look around and see if you can transfer to white collar in another office first.

Obviously, can't speak to SEC or the like--LLM may be more of a requirement there if that's the direction you'd like to go.

[Anonymous User]

For what it's worth, there may be easier/less expensive ways to accomplish your goal.

I'm a white collar AUSA in a major metro (though probably considered a secondary market), and I don't have an LLM. I don't believe any of my colleagues in the white collar unit have LLMs either.

I'm guessing offices may vary pretty drastically in that regard. It might be easier to just look around and see if you can transfer to white collar in another office first.

Obviously, can't speak to SEC or the like--LLM may be more of a requirement there if that's the direction you'd like to go.

Thanks for this, did you come from a white collar background? It seems like most in the white collar group have some sort of white-collar hook. E.g., the vast majority i know of all did WC work at firms before coming to the USAO.

While I'm not senior, I'm not exactly junior either -- which I think makes it hard for me to make the switch without something like the LLM, at least that is what folks tell me.

[Anonymous User]

My office seems to heavily recruit former DAs and JAGs who have extensive trial experience and are interested in being in trial a lot as AUSAs. My impression is that most of my colleagues in white collar fit that mold rather than having any particular prior link to white collar.

I'm definitely the junior of the bunch, as I got hired with only a few years' experience as a state prosecutor. I'm guessing I had quite a bit more trial experience than the typical big law hire, but definitely not as much as more senior state prosecutors.

The primary reason I made it in was due to my pre-law career, which dovetailed nicely with a particular area in white collar that they needed a dedicated prosecutor for and which required a skillset that you don't typically find in lawyers/prosecutors. It's niche enough that I don't want to go into any more specifics to avoid potentially outing myself.

I mostly wanted to chime in re: my colleagues, since they're more representative of most experienced lawyers, and as far as I know they didn't really have any particular white collar "hook" prior to being hired.

Obviously this isn't SDNY or EDVA, but there are definitely more offices like mine out there. Just wanted to give you an alternative if you find yourself hesitant about the LLM thing!