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How bad is garden leave?
So basically I don't need to come to the office anymore and won't have access to email etc but still will be paid for a few months. I'm actively looking and wanted to get a sense of how bad this is.
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Re: How bad is garden leave?
You've been fired and they're giving you time to land on your feet.
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Re: How bad is garden leave?
I actually resigned but have been going to the office etc. I meant how bad is it for my search?IExistedOnceBefore wrote:You've been fired and they're giving you time to land on your feet.
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Re: How bad is garden leave?
It's good. You'll still be on the website and give you time to search. I won't say anything about you resigning without something else lined up.Anonymous User wrote:I actually resigned but have been going to the office etc. I meant how bad is it for my search?IExistedOnceBefore wrote:You've been fired and they're giving you time to land on your feet.
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You may believe that you resigned, but the fact that the firm is paying you months of severance suggests that your firm believes that you were fired.Anonymous User wrote:I actually resigned but have been going to the office etc. I meant how bad is it for my search?IExistedOnceBefore wrote:You've been fired and they're giving you time to land on your feet.
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Re: How bad is garden leave?
Garden Leave is an UK term of art/concept. OP, if you are in the UK and are using the term in the conventional sense as it is understood in the UK, you are not going to get much help here as most (clearly) are not going to be familiar with it.
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I'm familiar with the term. Why is it clear to you that the posters ITT didn't understand the term or the OP's post?koalatriste wrote:Garden Leave is an UK term of art/concept. OP, if you are in the UK and are using the term in the conventional sense as it is understood in the UK, you are not going to get much help here as most (clearly) are not going to be familiar with it.
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Re: How bad is garden leave?
SO you resigned and they decided to pay you for a few months anyway, just for giggles? Seems legit.
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Re: How bad is garden leave?
He can't quit them, they're fired?rpupkin wrote:You may believe that you resigned, but the fact that the firm is paying you months of severance suggests that your firm believes that you were fired.Anonymous User wrote:I actually resigned but have been going to the office etc. I meant how bad is it for my search?IExistedOnceBefore wrote:You've been fired and they're giving you time to land on your feet.
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Re: How bad is garden leave?
Huh? I'm not sure what you're saying or asking. But the point is that law firms generally don't pay severance (or put an employee on "garden leave") for months after the employee voluntarily quits.stego wrote:He can't quit them, they're fired?rpupkin wrote:You may believe that you resigned, but the fact that the firm is paying you months of severance suggests that your firm believes that you were fired.Anonymous User wrote:I actually resigned but have been going to the office etc. I meant how bad is it for my search?IExistedOnceBefore wrote:You've been fired and they're giving you time to land on your feet.
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I was making a dumb play on the words "you can't fire me, I quit."rpupkin wrote:Huh? I'm not sure what you're saying or asking. But the point is that law firms generally don't pay severance (or put an employee on "garden leave") for months when the employee quits.stego wrote:He can't quit them, they're fired?rpupkin wrote:You may believe that you resigned, but the fact that the firm is paying you months of severance suggests that your firm believes that you were fired.Anonymous User wrote:I actually resigned but have been going to the office etc. I meant how bad is it for my search?IExistedOnceBefore wrote:You've been fired and they're giving you time to land on your feet.
Maybe the firm pushed OP into resigning so they wouldn't have to officially fire him.
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Re: How bad is garden leave?
Edited - Garden leave is not a thing in the U.S. like it is in the UK. OP- you were fired.
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Re: How bad is garden leave?
I actually thought this was a thing done in U.K. Market. Op needs to clarify on that point, given both the weirdness of the situation by us standards and this is something done elsewhere.rpupkin wrote:Huh? I'm not sure what you're saying or asking. But the point is that law firms generally don't pay severance (or put an employee on "garden leave") for months after the employee voluntarily quits.stego wrote:He can't quit them, they're fired?rpupkin wrote:You may believe that you resigned, but the fact that the firm is paying you months of severance suggests that your firm believes that you were fired.Anonymous User wrote:I actually resigned but have been going to the office etc. I meant how bad is it for my search?IExistedOnceBefore wrote:You've been fired and they're giving you time to land on your feet.
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Re: How bad is garden leave?
OP here. I signed a resignation letter after having the talk. Based in the U.S.stego wrote:I was making a dumb play on the words "you can't fire me, I quit."rpupkin wrote:Huh? I'm not sure what you're saying or asking. But the point is that law firms generally don't pay severance (or put an employee on "garden leave") for months when the employee quits.stego wrote:He can't quit them, they're fired?rpupkin wrote:You may believe that you resigned, but the fact that the firm is paying you months of severance suggests that your firm believes that you were fired.Anonymous User wrote:I actually resigned but have been going to the office etc. I meant how bad is it for my search?IExistedOnceBefore wrote:You've been fired and they're giving you time to land on your feet.
Maybe the firm pushed OP into resigning so they wouldn't have to officially fire him.
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This is what I assumed. OP was effectively fired. In exchange for agreeing to go quietly, OP gets to: (1) resign, (2) receive pay for awhile, and (3) still have his or her bio on the firm web site. This is common in big law.Anonymous User wrote:OP here. I signed a resignation letter after having the talk. Based in the U.S.
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I guess the question is how bad is this if the word gets out? I mean as compared with still going to work.rpupkin wrote:This is what I assumed. OP was effectively fired. In exchange for agreeing to go quietly, OP gets to: (1) resign, (2) receive pay for awhile, and (3) still have his or her bio on the firm web site. This is common in big law.Anonymous User wrote:OP here. I signed a resignation letter after having the talk. Based in the U.S.
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Re: How bad is garden leave?
This is kind of confusing. When is resignation later dated as? Stealth layoffs are based on a fiction where the attorney is leaving voluntarily even though in reality he is being told to leave. On paper it looks or should look 100% like a lateral move. But signing a resignation letter, while still being paid and on website seems a bit unusual and raises in my opinion an ethical question if you are asked as to whether you are still employed at your old firm.
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Re: How bad is garden leave?
How different is this from being soft exited (secondment or the like)?
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