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Why don't law firms use the Oxford comma in their names?

Post by stumpy » Fri Jun 09, 2017 11:32 am

Some firms don't use commas at all (e.g., McDermott Will & Emery; Akin Gump Strauss Hauer & Feld), but the ones that do invariably leave out the Oxford comma (e.g., Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison; Cadwalader, Wickersham & Taft; Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom).
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Re: Why don't law firms use the Oxford comma in their names?

Post by NoLongerALurker » Fri Jun 09, 2017 11:34 am

Typically don't use Oxford commas at all -- not just a matter of name.

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Re: Why don't law firms use the Oxford comma in their names?

Post by rpupkin » Fri Jun 09, 2017 11:41 am

The oxford comma is a signal of prestige. If we didn't have Vault, the oxford comma's presence (or lack thereof) would be the primary way to distinguish the best firms from the mediocre ones.

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Re: Why don't law firms use the Oxford comma in their names?

Post by Aquinas » Fri Jun 09, 2017 11:42 am

Anonymous User wrote:Some firms don't use commas at all (e.g., McDermott Will & Emery; Akin Gump Strauss Hauer & Feld), but the ones that do invariably leave out the Oxford comma (e.g., Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison; Cadwalader, Wickersham & Taft; Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom).
I would guess it has to do with the fact that it looks kind of weird to have a comma and an ampersand directly adjacent to one another.

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Re: Why don't law firms use the Oxford comma in their names?

Post by LaLiLuLeLo » Fri Jun 09, 2017 11:53 am

NoLongerALurker wrote:Typically don't use Oxford commas at all -- not just a matter of name.
And it drives me crazy.

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Re: Why don't law firms use the Oxford comma in their names?

Post by TooMuchTuna » Fri Jun 09, 2017 12:06 pm

LaLiLuLeLo wrote:
NoLongerALurker wrote:Typically don't use Oxford commas at all -- not just a matter of name.
And it drives me crazy.
Ditto! Based on the number of times the issue of "commas" has come up in cases (see: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/16/us/o ... .html?_r=0), you'd think more lawyers would be pro-Oxford comma!

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Re: Why don't law firms use the Oxford comma in their names?

Post by snowball2 » Fri Jun 09, 2017 12:24 pm

Just following the old-money "branding" of Wall Street (e.g. "Merrill Lynch", "Smith Barney", "Morgan Stanley"). Although it does lead people to ask if Paul Weiss was a famous lawyer.


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Re: Why don't law firms use the Oxford comma in their names?

Post by h2go » Fri Jun 09, 2017 3:21 pm

The oxford comma can be just as confusing. Save some printer ink people.

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Re: Why don't law firms use the Oxford comma in their names?

Post by blahblewblah » Fri Jun 09, 2017 5:01 pm

Garner says to omit before an ampersand.

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Re: Why don't law firms use the Oxford comma in their names?

Post by Abbie Doobie » Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:48 am

snowball2 wrote:Just following the old-money "branding" of Wall Street (e.g. "Merrill Lynch", "Smith Barney", "Morgan Stanley"). Although it does lead people to ask if Paul Weiss was a famous lawyer.
uh, no it doesn't because it's paul, weiss

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