Bancroft joins K&E Forum

Jchance · Post by **Jchance** » Mon Sep 12, 2016 1:31 pm

https://www.kirkland.com/sitecontent.cf ... emId=12393

your chance to work with Paul Clement.

Nebby · Post by **Nebby** » Mon Sep 12, 2016 2:24 pm

Damn, that's a pretty big acquisition of talent

AT9 · Post by **AT9** » Mon Sep 12, 2016 3:18 pm

Wow. Kirkland added some heavy hitters.

RaceJudicata · Post by **RaceJudicata** » Mon Sep 12, 2016 3:26 pm

Wow, massive move.

Dr. Nefario · Post by **Dr. Nefario** » Mon Sep 12, 2016 3:27 pm

If only they had timed it a couple weeks earlier for 'crootin.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Mon Sep 12, 2016 3:29 pm

Wow. Turned down KE DC, may have affected my decision.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Mon Sep 12, 2016 3:37 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Wow. Turned down KE DC, may have affected my decision.

Yeah... actually beating myself over this because I chose a perceived "lifestyle" firm in a secondary market over K&E.

rpupkin · Post by **rpupkin** » Mon Sep 12, 2016 3:58 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Wow. Turned down KE DC, may have affected my decision.
Yeah... actually beating myself over this because I chose a perceived "lifestyle" firm in a secondary market over K&E.

LOL. As if you were going to work in that group anyway. If you want to work with Clement & Co., go get a DC Circuit/SCOTUS clerkship and then apply there post-clerkship.

Nebby · Post by **Nebby** » Mon Sep 12, 2016 4:17 pm

rpupkin wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Wow. Turned down KE DC, may have affected my decision.
Yeah... actually beating myself over this because I chose a perceived "lifestyle" firm in a secondary market over K&E.
LOL. As if you were going to work in that group anyway.

lawlorbust · Post by **lawlorbust** » Mon Sep 12, 2016 4:20 pm

Nebby wrote:
rpupkin wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Wow. Turned down KE DC, may have affected my decision.
Yeah... actually beating myself over this because I chose a perceived "lifestyle" firm in a secondary market over K&E.
LOL. As if you were going to work in that group anyway.

Blackfish · Post by **Blackfish** » Mon Sep 12, 2016 4:23 pm

rpupkin · Post by **rpupkin** » Mon Sep 12, 2016 4:25 pm

Blackfish wrote:but... what about the free market system at k&e? wouldn't the system allow ppl to work with clement and co.?

umichman · Post by **umichman** » Mon Sep 12, 2016 4:55 pm

rpupkin wrote:
Blackfish wrote:but... what about the free market system at k&e? wouldn't the system allow ppl to work with clement and co.?

THe partners also get to pick who they work with. So clement can still just work with the people he wants to i.e. not people he woudlnt have hired at Bancroft.

FSK · Post by **FSK** » Mon Sep 12, 2016 5:00 pm

For those who enjoy luxuriating in the penumubra of prestige, K&E is now a much better firm. You're basically a personal injury mill if you don't have a former SG.

rpupkin · Post by **rpupkin** » Mon Sep 12, 2016 5:02 pm

umichman wrote:
rpupkin wrote:
Blackfish wrote:but... what about the free market system at k&e? wouldn't the system allow ppl to work with clement and co.?

THe partners also get to pick who they work with. So clement can still just work with the people he wants to i.e. not people he woudlnt have hired at Bancroft.

I assumed Blackfish was joking. But in case not, umichman is correct, of course.

buckiguy_sucks · Post by **buckiguy_sucks** » Mon Sep 12, 2016 5:34 pm

FSK wrote:For those who enjoy luxuriating in the penumubra of prestige, K&E is now a much better firm. You're basically a personal injury mill if you don't have a former SG.

what if all you have is a former ACTING solicitor general

rahulg91 · Post by **rahulg91** » Mon Sep 12, 2016 5:41 pm

buckiguy_sucks wrote:
FSK wrote:For those who enjoy luxuriating in the penumubra of prestige, K&E is now a much better firm. You're basically a personal injury mill if you don't have a former SG.
what if all you have is a former ACTING solicitor general

TTT

dixiecupdrinking · Post by **dixiecupdrinking** » Mon Sep 12, 2016 6:33 pm

Didn't Clement quite intentionally leave a big firm to go to a boutique? Not to mention he could have gone by himself to any number of big firms at any time. Wonder what Kirkland did to make this attractive.

RaceJudicata · Post by **RaceJudicata** » Mon Sep 12, 2016 6:34 pm

dixiecupdrinking wrote:Didn't Clement quite intentionally leave a big firm to go to a boutique? Not to mention he could have gone by himself to any number of big firms at any time. Wonder what Kirkland did to make this attractive.

"what" is likely money. The question is how much.

rpupkin · Post by **rpupkin** » Mon Sep 12, 2016 6:36 pm

dixiecupdrinking wrote:Didn't Clement quite intentionally leave a big firm to go to a boutique? Not to mention he could have gone by himself to any number of big firms at any time. Wonder what Kirkland did to make this attractive.

My guess is that it's a combination of (a) money and (b) Kirkland's political lean (which is to the right of most big law firms)

MCFC · Post by **MCFC** » Mon Sep 12, 2016 6:38 pm

dixiecupdrinking wrote:Didn't Clement quite intentionally leave a big firm to go to a boutique? Not to mention he could have gone by himself to any number of big firms at any time. Wonder what Kirkland did to make this attractive.

I only casually follow these things but wasn't the SSM fight involved in his decision to leave?

dixiecupdrinking · Post by **dixiecupdrinking** » Mon Sep 12, 2016 6:39 pm

RaceJudicata wrote:
dixiecupdrinking wrote:Didn't Clement quite intentionally leave a big firm to go to a boutique? Not to mention he could have gone by himself to any number of big firms at any time. Wonder what Kirkland did to make this attractive.
"what" is likely money. The question is how much.

Well, yes. I don't think Clement is doing this out of charity. But there are lots of firms with money.

Given how he left King & Spalding, I'd be curious to know if Kirkland had to give assurances the firm will give him full independence to choose his cases, etc.

dixiecupdrinking · Post by **dixiecupdrinking** » Mon Sep 12, 2016 6:41 pm

MCFC wrote:
dixiecupdrinking wrote:Didn't Clement quite intentionally leave a big firm to go to a boutique? Not to mention he could have gone by himself to any number of big firms at any time. Wonder what Kirkland did to make this attractive.
I only casually follow these things but wasn't the SSM fight involved in his decision to leave?

Yup, my recollection is basically that he took the case for the House GOP, then King & Spalding wanted to drop it after getting a sense of the PR consequences, and Clement made his dissatisfaction very public. His point about not dropping a client you already have due to the way the political winds are blowing is well taken, but I bet a lot of firms are not that interested in adding a litany of appeals about Republican pet causes to their marketing materials.

jbagelboy · Post by **jbagelboy** » Mon Sep 12, 2016 6:45 pm

Damn.

I think this tees Kirkland up right with Gibson/Wilmer/W&C/ect. in DC as a far as appellate firepower is concerned.

umichman · Post by **umichman** » Mon Sep 12, 2016 7:11 pm

dixiecupdrinking wrote:
MCFC wrote:
dixiecupdrinking wrote:Didn't Clement quite intentionally leave a big firm to go to a boutique? Not to mention he could have gone by himself to any number of big firms at any time. Wonder what Kirkland did to make this attractive.
I only casually follow these things but wasn't the SSM fight involved in his decision to leave?
Yup, my recollection is basically that he took the case for the House GOP, then King & Spalding wanted to drop it after getting a sense of the PR consequences, and Clement made his dissatisfaction very public. His point about not dropping a client you already have due to the way the political winds are blowing is well taken, but I bet a lot of firms are not that interested in adding a litany of appeals about Republican pet causes to their marketing materials.

Since kirkland offered "lower" profile but still huge partners 8-9m, my guess is they offered him north of 10 guaranteed. http://abovethelaw.com/2014/12/who-is-b ... llion-man/

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