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Starting Early as a First-Year
I am an incoming first-year at a big firm in NYC. I was planning on doing a bar trip like everyone else, but an immediate family member got really sick so I decided to stay to spend more time with them. My start date is late September, but I'm strapped for cash, so I was thinking of asking to start early. My thoughts are that no one would care if I asked to start early, but they will probably say no because my start date is fairly close. I can ask for an advance, but I'd rather just start early, because I don't have much to do. Would really appreciate any advice on whether it would hurt to ask. I can't see a reason why it would, but I could be missing something.
Anon only because I've discussed this with a couple friends.
ETA: Took the bar in July.
Anon only because I've discussed this with a couple friends.
ETA: Took the bar in July.
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Re: Starting Early as a First-Year
it hurts to ask because it makes you look like you dont understand how this works. it inconveniences the firm to have to train you separately from the others. dont ask. spend more time with your sick family member. sorry about your family.
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Re: Starting Early as a First-Year
Go work in "s#it" law/ doc review for $15/hour. That way you will earn some cash and will appreciate getting paaaaid once you start biglaw 
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Re: Starting Early as a First-Year
Did you summer there? If so, call up someone you worked with that you have a decent relationship with and talk to them about it. At the firms I have worked at, there have been exceptions to the regular start dates, but family emergencies have resulted in delaying, not advancing, the start date.
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Re: Starting Early as a First-Year
do contract work or sell shit online for the time being. you already have a 180K lined up.
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Re: Starting Early as a First-Year
I'm taking bar in Feb and they are letting me start earlierAnonymous User wrote:I am an incoming first-year at a big firm in NYC. I was planning on doing a bar trip like everyone else, but an immediate family member got really sick so I decided to stay to spend more time with them. My start date is late September, but I'm strapped for cash, so I was thinking of asking to start early. My thoughts are that no one would care if I asked to start early, but they will probably say no because my start date is fairly close. I can ask for an advance, but I'd rather just start early, because I don't have much to do. Would really appreciate any advice on whether it would hurt to ask. I can't see a reason why it would, but I could be missing something.
Anon only because I've discussed this with a couple friends.
ETA: Took the bar in July.
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Re: Starting Early as a First-Year
I really appreciate all of the responses! And, yeah, I was at the firm last summer, and there are associates that I had good relationships with that I can ask.
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Re: Starting Early as a First-Year
You can do doc review without bar passage?omar1 wrote:Go work in "s#it" law/ doc review for $15/hour. That way you will earn some cash and will appreciate getting paaaaid once you start biglaw
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thegrayman

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Re: Starting Early as a First-Year
Firms have a structured start and training system, I wouldn't ask them to start early. Plus, once you start your social life is over, so enjoy it while it lasts.
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Re: Starting Early as a First-Year
Unless you're really strapped for cash, you should enjoy the free time and spend it with your family/friends. You're never going to have that kind of time again.
If you really need money though, I don't think this is that unreasonable to ask. First week "training" is to teach you how to use your computers, phone, and the firm's policies. I don't think it's that expensive/burdensome to have the firm set it up for you. Just don't expect hot breakfast in the mornings. And by the time the stub year ends, no one's going to even remember. In fact, if your group is slammed, you might even be helping them.
If you were close to any of your firm's recruiters, I'd ask them casually, but still professionally, whether it's possible based on your circumstances. Be gracious and understanding, and don't act entitled. Email should be fine for this. If you're not comfortable doing that, or you weren't close to your recruiters, ask a junior that you developed a relationship with (as the poster above suggested). Sure it's outside of protocol, but if the firm says no, it's not going to harm you as long as you come off as sincere.
If you really need money though, I don't think this is that unreasonable to ask. First week "training" is to teach you how to use your computers, phone, and the firm's policies. I don't think it's that expensive/burdensome to have the firm set it up for you. Just don't expect hot breakfast in the mornings. And by the time the stub year ends, no one's going to even remember. In fact, if your group is slammed, you might even be helping them.
If you were close to any of your firm's recruiters, I'd ask them casually, but still professionally, whether it's possible based on your circumstances. Be gracious and understanding, and don't act entitled. Email should be fine for this. If you're not comfortable doing that, or you weren't close to your recruiters, ask a junior that you developed a relationship with (as the poster above suggested). Sure it's outside of protocol, but if the firm says no, it's not going to harm you as long as you come off as sincere.
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Re: Starting Early as a First-Year
There's 0 chance they say yes if it's a firm with a sizable incoming class - they have formal trainings and can't accommodate random people starting off schedule. Get a 0% credit card.
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Re: Starting Early as a First-Year
There are some places that allow "JDs" to do doc review. They pay them less than attorneys, but I'm not exactly sure how it's set up, since you should be admitted to do doc review. But I've seen ads.Anonymous User wrote:You can do doc review without bar passage?omar1 wrote:Go work in "s#it" law/ doc review for $15/hour. That way you will earn some cash and will appreciate getting paaaaid once you start biglaw
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