Being no-offered for grades? Forum

[Anonymous User]

I know this has probably been asked before but my search bar skills didn't reveal anything; and I know a lot of people say no one gets no-offered for grades. But anyways....

I have my 2L SA this summer. I was just wondering when people do talk about getting no-offered for grades, what kind of grade drop they're talking about. Like, going from a 4.0 to a 3.5, or going from a 3.5 to a 3.4, or what? What kind of grade drop is dramatic enough to get a firm's attention.
And also, in that context, how firms view transfers. Is a transfer going from a 4.0 at old school to 3.5 at new school bad or expected, or anything like that?

Thanks in advance for answering my obnoxious questions.

[BmoreOrLess]

Your research skills are probably a bigger issue.

I'm sure there's more substantive threads if you look.

[SLS_AMG]

No one here can accurately answer your question, and you really shouldn't worry about it. The general consensus is that a grade drop alone is not going to result in a no offer at the vast majority of firms. If a firm wants to no offer you, however, they will find a reason to do so. Grades are a convenient excuse, as is work quality and poor fit.

Just do your best to be friendly and hard working this summer and don't worry about the things you can't (at least not any longer) control.

[Anonymous User]

I was at a notoriously grade conscious v10. Transferred with top 10%, 2L grades at median. Offered. I was worried about it, but as the above poster mentioned, it's out of your control now. Just do your best and give them no other reasons to no offer.

[HonestAdvice]

Even if somebody is no offered "because of grades," that doesn't mean grades are the only reason they're no offered. Let's say you're creepy, weird or people don't like you. All of these could be tangentially related to protected characteristics, or at least be argued to be. Grades are an objective criteria from a firm's perspective - they apply to all summers, are documented and your offer letter probably mentioned something about them. I'm not saying they don't matter, but that they won't be the only reason you're no offered and out of 3 or 4 reasons, they're bar none the best one to tell you.

[Anonymous User]

I don't even think my 2L firms asked for an updated transcript. My 1L firm wanted an updated transcript with spring grades, though; 1L SA's can get no offered/not offered a touch-back when their 1L cumulative grades fall far below the firm's expectations for their 2L OCI recruits.