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Re: Kirkland Bonuses?

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Re: Kirkland Bonuses?

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Any lateral associates in this thread?

I got my comp memo but it’s silent on bonus, which is guaranteed per my offer letter. Is it usual for the memo to be silent but funds still paid?
Also a lateral, also was told I'd "be eligible for" the full bonus even though I was entering once the firm's billable year had already begun. Was told that the "eligible for" caveat just meant I needed to be in good standing, etc. The letter I got today was not consistent with that and I emailed the link provided in the cover email to ask what happened. May just have been an oversight by someone who forgot to coordinate with the lateral recruitment office. If not, then, well..

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Re: Kirkland Bonuses?

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Any lateral associates in this thread?

I got my comp memo but it’s silent on bonus, which is guaranteed per my offer letter. Is it usual for the memo to be silent but funds still paid?
The year I lateraled my bonus was still in my comp memo, so you should probably ask.

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Re: Kirkland Bonuses?

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Is the merit bonus $5,000 for all class years? Would’ve thought it’d be $10,000 lame

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Re: Kirkland Bonuses?

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Tue Dec 20, 2022 11:06 pm
Is the merit bonus $5,000 for all class years? Would’ve thought it’d be $10,000 lame
2500 if you got a 3.

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Re: Kirkland Bonuses?

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Anonymous User wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 11:16 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 11:06 pm
Is the merit bonus $5,000 for all class years? Would’ve thought it’d be $10,000 lame
2500 if you got a 3.
And is it $5,000 more at 2,000 and for every 100 hours after that?

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Re: Kirkland Bonuses?

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Anonymous User wrote:
Wed Dec 21, 2022 1:32 am
Anonymous User wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 11:16 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 11:06 pm
Is the merit bonus $5,000 for all class years? Would’ve thought it’d be $10,000 lame
2500 if you got a 3.
And is it $5,000 more at 2,000 and for every 100 hours after that?
$2k hour bonus at 2000 hours. Every 100 hours after that is $1000.

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Re: Kirkland Bonuses?

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Anonymous User wrote:
Wed Dec 21, 2022 1:38 am
Anonymous User wrote:
Wed Dec 21, 2022 1:32 am
Anonymous User wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 11:16 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 11:06 pm
Is the merit bonus $5,000 for all class years? Would’ve thought it’d be $10,000 lame
2500 if you got a 3.
And is it $5,000 more at 2,000 and for every 100 hours after that?
$2k hour bonus at 2000 hours. Every 100 hours after that is $1000.
No way wow. That’s so crappy, I find it hard to believe.

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Re: Kirkland Bonuses?

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Dec 21, 2022 2:11 am

Forthose wondering about laterals - I’m a lateral NSP and had market bonus guaranteed in my offer letter, and my memo included bonus. 1.25, below 2000 annualized

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Re: Kirkland Bonuses?

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Dec 21, 2022 2:11 am

Forthose wondering about laterals - I’m a lateral NSP and had market bonus guaranteed in my offer letter, and my memo included bonus. 1.25, below 2000 annualized

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Re: Kirkland Bonuses?

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Dec 21, 2022 2:43 am

Anonymous User wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 8:50 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 8:32 pm
Any lateral associates in this thread?

I got my comp memo but it’s silent on bonus, which is guaranteed per my offer letter. Is it usual for the memo to be silent but funds still paid?
Also a lateral, also was told I'd "be eligible for" the full bonus even though I was entering once the firm's billable year had already begun. Was told that the "eligible for" caveat just meant I needed to be in good standing, etc. The letter I got today was not consistent with that and I emailed the link provided in the cover email to ask what happened. May just have been an oversight by someone who forgot to coordinate with the lateral recruitment office. If not, then, well..
Same here. Was your offer letter silent?

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Re: Kirkland Bonuses?

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Anonymous User wrote:
Wed Dec 21, 2022 2:43 am
Anonymous User wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 8:50 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 8:32 pm
Any lateral associates in this thread?

I got my comp memo but it’s silent on bonus, which is guaranteed per my offer letter. Is it usual for the memo to be silent but funds still paid?
Also a lateral, also was told I'd "be eligible for" the full bonus even though I was entering once the firm's billable year had already begun. Was told that the "eligible for" caveat just meant I needed to be in good standing, etc. The letter I got today was not consistent with that and I emailed the link provided in the cover email to ask what happened. May just have been an oversight by someone who forgot to coordinate with the lateral recruitment office. If not, then, well..
Same here. Was your offer letter silent?
Yeah, they sent me the assurance in writing by email, and at the time I didn't think to ask them to re-write the offer letter itself.

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Re: Kirkland Bonuses?

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Dec 21, 2022 12:18 pm

Lateral here - had my bonus guaranteed in the offer letter. Got the full bonus for my class year in the memo.

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Re: Kirkland Bonuses?

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Dec 21, 2022 12:48 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 8:50 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 8:32 pm
Any lateral associates in this thread?

I got my comp memo but it’s silent on bonus, which is guaranteed per my offer letter. Is it usual for the memo to be silent but funds still paid?
Also a lateral, also was told I'd "be eligible for" the full bonus even though I was entering once the firm's billable year had already begun. Was told that the "eligible for" caveat just meant I needed to be in good standing, etc. The letter I got today was not consistent with that and I emailed the link provided in the cover email to ask what happened. May just have been an oversight by someone who forgot to coordinate with the lateral recruitment office. If not, then, well..
IDK, I read eligible as "we might decide to give you the full bonus, we might not". Other offer letters specifically guarantee full bonus. Big difference between eligible and guarantee.

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Re: Kirkland Bonuses?

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Dec 21, 2022 1:55 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Wed Dec 21, 2022 10:28 am
Anonymous User wrote:
Wed Dec 21, 2022 2:43 am
Anonymous User wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 8:50 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 8:32 pm
Any lateral associates in this thread?

I got my comp memo but it’s silent on bonus, which is guaranteed per my offer letter. Is it usual for the memo to be silent but funds still paid?
Also a lateral, also was told I'd "be eligible for" the full bonus even though I was entering once the firm's billable year had already begun. Was told that the "eligible for" caveat just meant I needed to be in good standing, etc. The letter I got today was not consistent with that and I emailed the link provided in the cover email to ask what happened. May just have been an oversight by someone who forgot to coordinate with the lateral recruitment office. If not, then, well..
Same here. Was your offer letter silent?
Yeah, they sent me the assurance in writing by email, and at the time I didn't think to ask them to re-write the offer letter itself.
Last year I know a lateral who's memo was silent but still got the full bonus payment - but their offer letter guaranteed bonus. Hope and pray for the 30th?

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Re: Kirkland Bonuses?

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Dec 21, 2022 2:21 pm

Kirkland having its billable year end in August creates uncertainty for laterals who join between 9/1 and 12/31. For those people, their offer letter may guarantee a bonus for a billable year that already ended and leave uncertain the next calendar year’s bonus.

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Re: Kirkland Bonuses?

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Dec 21, 2022 3:44 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Wed Dec 21, 2022 2:06 am
Anonymous User wrote:
Wed Dec 21, 2022 1:38 am
Anonymous User wrote:
Wed Dec 21, 2022 1:32 am
Anonymous User wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 11:16 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 11:06 pm
Is the merit bonus $5,000 for all class years? Would’ve thought it’d be $10,000 lame
2500 if you got a 3.
And is it $5,000 more at 2,000 and for every 100 hours after that?
$2k hour bonus at 2000 hours. Every 100 hours after that is $1000.
No way wow. That’s so crappy, I find it hard to believe.
Well I'm at a Cravath-paying firm and I billed 2550 and got exactly Cravath. Yay.

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Re: Kirkland Bonuses?

Post by Dr Tobias Funke » Wed Dec 21, 2022 3:57 pm

So instead of the black box multiples, they moved to

market + ($2k for hitting 2000 hours) + ($1k for every additional 100 hours)? So the Kirkland shatters bonus for 2400 hours would be $6k?

That can't be right.

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Re: Kirkland Bonuses?

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Dec 21, 2022 4:22 pm

I guess as a person at another V10, for all the sturm und drang about Kirkland (the huge growth, the A-list partner poaching, the culture, blah blah), the bonuses end up beating my firm by like 10% or less for most people? Which comes out to like 2-3% as measured from total compensation?

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Re: Kirkland Bonuses?

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Dec 21, 2022 6:51 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Wed Dec 21, 2022 3:44 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Wed Dec 21, 2022 2:06 am
Anonymous User wrote:
Wed Dec 21, 2022 1:38 am
Anonymous User wrote:
Wed Dec 21, 2022 1:32 am
Anonymous User wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 11:16 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 11:06 pm
Is the merit bonus $5,000 for all class years? Would’ve thought it’d be $10,000 lame
2500 if you got a 3.
And is it $5,000 more at 2,000 and for every 100 hours after that?
$2k hour bonus at 2000 hours. Every 100 hours after that is $1000.
No way wow. That’s so crappy, I find it hard to believe.
Well I'm at a Cravath-paying firm and I billed 2550 and got exactly Cravath. Yay.
How do you bill 2550 hours without really wanting to and not caring about the money/time ratio? I mean it can't be that hard to either turn down new work or lateral away. If I'm billing 2550 hours it better be a 2x bonus or whatever.

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Re: Kirkland Bonuses?

Post by Anonymous User » Wed Dec 21, 2022 7:05 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Wed Dec 21, 2022 6:51 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Wed Dec 21, 2022 3:44 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Wed Dec 21, 2022 2:06 am
Anonymous User wrote:
Wed Dec 21, 2022 1:38 am
Anonymous User wrote:
Wed Dec 21, 2022 1:32 am
Anonymous User wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 11:16 pm
Anonymous User wrote:
Tue Dec 20, 2022 11:06 pm
Is the merit bonus $5,000 for all class years? Would’ve thought it’d be $10,000 lame
2500 if you got a 3.
And is it $5,000 more at 2,000 and for every 100 hours after that?
$2k hour bonus at 2000 hours. Every 100 hours after that is $1000.
No way wow. That’s so crappy, I find it hard to believe.
Well I'm at a Cravath-paying firm and I billed 2550 and got exactly Cravath. Yay.
How do you bill 2550 hours without really wanting to and not caring about the money/time ratio? I mean it can't be that hard to either turn down new work or lateral away. If I'm billing 2550 hours it better be a 2x bonus or whatever.
The promise of partnership I suppose

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Re: Kirkland Bonuses?

Post by Wanderingdrock » Wed Dec 21, 2022 7:32 pm

Dr Tobias Funke wrote:
Wed Dec 21, 2022 3:57 pm
So instead of the black box multiples, they moved to

market + ($2k for hitting 2000 hours) + ($1k for every additional 100 hours)? So the Kirkland shatters bonus for 2400 hours would be $6k?

That can't be right.
That's the most reasonable way to read most of the discussion so far, but a comment a couple of pages back makes me think the "merit" bonus is independent of the multiplier....? Maybe.

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Re: Kirkland Bonuses?

Post by Dr Tobias Funke » Thu Dec 22, 2022 10:54 am

Wanderingdrock wrote:
Wed Dec 21, 2022 7:32 pm
Dr Tobias Funke wrote:
Wed Dec 21, 2022 3:57 pm
So instead of the black box multiples, they moved to

market + ($2k for hitting 2000 hours) + ($1k for every additional 100 hours)? So the Kirkland shatters bonus for 2400 hours would be $6k?

That can't be right.
That's the most reasonable way to read most of the discussion so far, but a comment a couple of pages back makes me think the "merit" bonus is independent of the multiplier....? Maybe.
Really weird that no one has chimed in yet with a better explanation. In years past there would be 4 pages of posts comparing hours/years/ratings with clear explanations of multipliers and total bonus by now. Kirkland, are you ok?!

Seriously? What are you waiting for?

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