tls below median Forum

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[cron1834]

Did you kill it 1L with all that work? Yikes.

Edit - I'm not below median, sorry, just curious re: ppl's work to reward ratio. I'm an extreme slacker.

[PeanutsNJam]

I basically did what Brut said, to a lesser degree (didn't spend as much time in the aggregate studying), and did really well, so I agree with his post entirely

Did not use supps as much though

Also did not read ahead. I think that is one of those typical gunner behaviors that make you think you're ahead of the curve but is actually useless.

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[Anonymous User]

How did you do 1L year brut

[BigZuck]

I never complain about brut-posting and genuinely not trying to be "that guy" but I sincerely think that cleaning up the punctuation, syntax, capitalization, etc. can make this thread a lot more helpful

Just IMO

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[Anonymous User]

I got a 4.0 last semester. DCN. I dunno dude maybe i should be giving the advice instead of you

[barkschool]

Sitting here doing homework b/c I'm the type of student that takes forever (hours & hours) to do homework.

Best tip: Get work done at least for the second day of classes,

Monday: Class A, Class B
Tuesday: Class C, Class D

Attempt over the weekend to get A, B, C, and D homework done.

Come Monday night, start completing A and B homework for the next class periods.
Come Tuesday night, start completing C and D homework for the next class periods.

Rinse and repeat.

I find it help avoid the "under the gun" feeling of doing homework due the next day, and allows me to spend way too much time pleasantly.

[BigZuck]

I got a 4.0 last semester. DCN. I dunno dude maybe i should be giving the advice instead of you

This is a very brave post Anon but I'm not sure you understand what this thread is about

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[Anonymous User]

Did you do anything with the way that you approached exam writing?

[Anonymous User]

I aced my MC final and did poorly in everything else, but my LRW professor seemed to think my writing was good. I plan to go talk to my professors about it, but any idea where I went wrong? Because I was able to do well on the one final, I'm inclined to think it's not an issue of needing to study more, but that could be me looking for an easy way out.

[Anonymous User]

Sitting here doing homework b/c I'm the type of student that takes forever (hours & hours) to do homework.

Best tip: Get work done at least for the second day of classes,

Monday: Class A, Class B
Tuesday: Class C, Class D

Attempt over the weekend to get A, B, C, and D homework done.

Come Monday night, start completing A and B homework for the next class periods.
Come Tuesday night, start completing C and D homework for the next class periods.

Rinse and repeat.

I find it help avoid the "under the gun" feeling of doing homework due the next day, and allows me to spend way too much time pleasantly.

This was huge to me. I tried to get as much of my reading for the week done over the weekend as I could, and definitely tried to stay at least one day ahead at all times because I hated the feeling of being under-the-gun having to read for class the next day. (as an aside, professors who only give you one reading assignment at a time suck). Sticking to that philosophy also helps you stay disciplined.

I found that doing it this way left me without a lot of reading to do at the end of the week so I could focus on fun things (ex. bar review) or on longer term assignments like legal writing, outlining, etc.

Also I didn't use supplements during most of the semester unless there was something I was really confused about, but I referred to them extensively when outlining, probably way more than I referred to my casebook, and used E&E's extensively when studying for exams.

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I got a 4.0 last semester. DCN. I dunno dude maybe i should be giving the advice instead of you

Maybe you should shut the fuck up?

[Anonymous User]

Did you do anything with the way that you approached exam writing?

answered above
if u have any specific questions about my approach, let me know

I aced my MC final and did poorly in everything else, but my LRW professor seemed to think my writing was good. I plan to go talk to my professors about it, but any idea where I went wrong? Because I was able to do well on the one final, I'm inclined to think it's not an issue of needing to study more, but that could be me looking for an easy way out.

well, if the issue truly wasn't needing to study more, and your writing is good, that makes me think it's a test strategy problem
did u identify whether your prof wanted more issues/standard issue jammer (lack of word limits or very high word limit, models use IRAC, huge number of issues in each problem) or more thoughtful/creative analysis (stricter word limits, models don't use IRAC, fewer issues in each problem)? and did u adapt?
did u have a well-organized comprehensible outline and attack outline? which did u use more? did it depend on the type of exam your prof was giving (it should have)
did u come in with a plan for how to use your time? for my evidence exam, i made a chart beforehand of where i wanted to be at every 15 minute interval. i stuck to it and finished the entire exam with no section getting short shrift, despite it being extremely time constrained
and here's some low hanging fruit: how much did u hustle? when the clock starts, i'm working like a maniac until time runs out. but i saw people leave my 5 hour torts exam early b/c they finished early, and they missed points that i had. can't be leisurely about exam writing

if u describe your exam strategy in detail i may be able to help more

The only advice I got with the one exam was to think like the professor, which I thought I did. That one was definitely looking for more creative answers.

With the other exam, I got sort of conflicting descriptions. It didn't have a word limit, but other people indicated it wasn't a horserace exam, either. The professor stressed the importance of organization (so, basically IRAC). I was sort of lost with that class the whole way through, but I thought everyone else was, too.

I modified old outlines from people who had done well in the class, and I hustled (but not frantically) through the entire test period. I didn't really feel like timing was a problem, especially for the word-limited exam.

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[Anonymous User]

Did you do anything with the way that you approached exam writing?

answered above
if u have any specific questions about my approach, let me know

I aced my MC final and did poorly in everything else, but my LRW professor seemed to think my writing was good. I plan to go talk to my professors about it, but any idea where I went wrong? Because I was able to do well on the one final, I'm inclined to think it's not an issue of needing to study more, but that could be me looking for an easy way out.

well, if the issue truly wasn't needing to study more, and your writing is good, that makes me think it's a test strategy problem
did u identify whether your prof wanted more issues/standard issue jammer (lack of word limits or very high word limit, models use IRAC, huge number of issues in each problem) or more thoughtful/creative analysis (stricter word limits, models don't use IRAC, fewer issues in each problem)? and did u adapt?
did u have a well-organized comprehensible outline and attack outline? which did u use more? did it depend on the type of exam your prof was giving (it should have)
did u come in with a plan for how to use your time? for my evidence exam, i made a chart beforehand of where i wanted to be at every 15 minute interval. i stuck to it and finished the entire exam with no section getting short shrift, despite it being extremely time constrained
and here's some low hanging fruit: how much did u hustle? when the clock starts, i'm working like a maniac until time runs out. but i saw people leave my 5 hour torts exam early b/c they finished early, and they missed points that i had. can't be leisurely about exam writing

if u describe your exam strategy in detail i may be able to help more

The only advice I got with the one exam was to think like the professor, which I thought I did. That one was definitely looking for more creative answers.

With the other exam, I got sort of conflicting descriptions. It didn't have a word limit, but other people indicated it wasn't a horserace exam, either. The professor stressed the importance of organization (so, basically IRAC). I was sort of lost with that class the whole way through, but I thought everyone else was, too.

I modified old outlines from people who had done well in the class, and I hustled (but not frantically) through the entire test period. I didn't really feel like timing was a problem, especially for the word-limited exam.

the funny thing about outlines is that there really are two completely legitimate but polar opposite ways to use them
some people do really well just reading and editing upperclassman outlines. i have friends who killed 1L and never made an outline from scratch
then there are people like me who really do need to outline, even when i have an outstanding upperclassman outline to work off of
for me, building an outline, especially an attack outline, helps me synthesize the material
it also tests how well i truly know the material. having to organize the course material into a form that is easy to use and comprehensible really shows me what i actually know and what i just think i know
i say, give it a shot. and if u find that it doesn't help u learn the material, u can always revert to your old way of doing things later in the semester. be flexible—everyone learns differently
also, vet your outlines before u use them. just because someone aced a course doesn't mean their outline is on point. first semester some of the outlines i used just served to confuse me

the course where u felt u were lost—did u allocate more time to prepare for that exam? during the semester were u good about prioritizing?
did u study the model answers for structure? for how they were making their points?

Yeah, my biggest gripe was that I didn't have model answers with which to compare. I started outlining, but it was a huge time-sink, and I felt like it wasn't helping me at all. It also delayed my use of recycled outlines, which I think was a mistake. I also employed the same used-outline approach in all my classes, including the A class. I did spend more time on that "lost" class, even reading through a supplement.