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When to start using first names

Post by Anonymous User » Sun Dec 06, 2015 12:11 pm

Starting my first associate job tomorrow, and I've always been bad about using superiors first names. I keep calling and referring to them in email as Mr x. Is this a bad habit? At what point do I start using first names?

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Re: When to start using first names

Post by El Pollito » Sun Dec 06, 2015 12:32 pm

yeah it's really weird to call coworkers mr. / ms.

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Re: When to start using first names

Post by North » Sun Dec 06, 2015 1:11 pm

I'm bad about this too, especially with calling people sir and ma'am. Someone told me recently that, if you want to be treated like their colleague, you have to address them as if they are a colleague. Colleagues use first names.

Using it in e-mail communication before you get the job is a different thing that shouldn't stop you from using first names now that you've been hired.

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Re: When to start using first names

Post by Actus Reus » Sun Dec 06, 2015 1:26 pm

Make them call you sir and assert your dominance as soon as possible.

We have some terrible first year that drink 5 diet cokes and 3 coffees a day and wears a suit every day and calls people Mr and Ms. Nobody likes him.

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Re: When to start using first names

Post by LA Spring » Sun Dec 06, 2015 3:32 pm

When I talk to partners about other partners I refer to those partners by their first names. When I talk directly to a partner I never see the need to use their name, not even sir or mam. Trust me, you can have conversations without using names, etc.

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Re: When to start using first names

Post by TLSModBot » Sun Dec 06, 2015 3:42 pm

When can you start using pet names for coworkers, though? And should you start with names already generally accepted around the office or take the initiative to make up your own?

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Re: When to start using first names

Post by kaiser » Sun Dec 06, 2015 3:42 pm

If you want to be even halfway respected in the workplace, you refer to your co-workers by their first names, both in emails and in direct conversation. You aren't there to fetch them coffee, so avoid the urge to use Mr. or Ms. That goes for everyone from mailroom clerk to the firm's managing partner.
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Re: When to start using first names

Post by Anonymous User » Sun Dec 06, 2015 3:45 pm

Alright. So here is how this works.

1) You are a professional, not a servant. You are not expected to call anyone Mr/Mrs. Ever

2) Since you are new, its more likely people will be looking to introduce themselves to you. They will usually only give you their first name/nickname. After that, you never call them by another name.

3) If they are socially weird, and give you BOTH their first name and their last name, still call them by their first name. Don't worry, their feelings aren't hurt.

4) For crying out loud, in your emails, use their first names. Geez. No Mr/mrs. Never.

5) Again. You are a professional and their equal.

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Re: When to start using first names

Post by Anonymous User » Sun Dec 06, 2015 3:50 pm

Where does man fit in? I'm a first year and a lot of people call me "man." I assume this means they forget my name. I've noticed I use "man" a lot now because I've become accustomed to it.

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Re: When to start using first names

Post by kcdc1 » Sun Dec 06, 2015 3:53 pm

Actus Reus wrote:We have some terrible first year that drink 5 diet cokes and 3 coffees a day and wears a suit every day and calls people Mr and Ms. Nobody likes him.
What % of the dislike is beverage-related?

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Re: When to start using first names

Post by 84651846190 » Sun Dec 06, 2015 3:53 pm

"Yesh me lord" is tcr

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Re: When to start using first names

Post by Anonymous User » Sun Dec 06, 2015 3:55 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Where does man fit in? I'm a first year and a lot of people call me "man." I assume this means they forget my name. I've noticed I use "man" a lot now because I've become accustomed to it.
I guess you are "fitting in." Nothing wrong with that.

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Re: When to start using first names

Post by Anonymous User » Sun Dec 06, 2015 4:29 pm

kaiser wrote:If you want to be even halfway respected in the workplace, you refer to your co-workers by their first names, both in emails and in direct conversation. You aren't there to fetch them coffee, so avoid the urge to use Mr. or Ms. That goes for everyone from mailroom clerk to the firm's managing partner.
Does the same advice apply as an SA?

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Re: When to start using first names

Post by North » Sun Dec 06, 2015 4:33 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
kaiser wrote:If you want to be even halfway respected in the workplace, you refer to your co-workers by their first names, both in emails and in direct conversation. You aren't there to fetch them coffee, so avoid the urge to use Mr. or Ms. That goes for everyone from mailroom clerk to the firm's managing partner.
Does the same advice apply as an SA?
If my experience of being corrected 1000 times during my SA and having it come up in the end of summer review is any indication, yes it applies as an SA. Don't be me.

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Re: When to start using first names

Post by kaiser » Sun Dec 06, 2015 4:37 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
kaiser wrote:If you want to be even halfway respected in the workplace, you refer to your co-workers by their first names, both in emails and in direct conversation. You aren't there to fetch them coffee, so avoid the urge to use Mr. or Ms. That goes for everyone from mailroom clerk to the firm's managing partner.
Does the same advice apply as an SA?
Yes, absolutely. They are trying to gauge how you would be as a co-worker. And thats how you want to come off.

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Re: When to start using first names

Post by Anonymous User » Sun Dec 06, 2015 4:41 pm

I used short names from day one. Non-partnership track?

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Re: When to start using first names

Post by Actus Reus » Sun Dec 06, 2015 5:59 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
kaiser wrote:If you want to be even halfway respected in the workplace, you refer to your co-workers by their first names, both in emails and in direct conversation. You aren't there to fetch them coffee, so avoid the urge to use Mr. or Ms. That goes for everyone from mailroom clerk to the firm's managing partner.
Does the same advice apply as an SA?
Jesus f y'all are so anal. Be human.

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Re: When to start using first names

Post by totesTheGoat » Sun Dec 06, 2015 6:00 pm

Desert Fox wrote:Day one.
TCR. Once you graduate high school, you refer to your coworkers by their first name.

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Re: When to start using first names

Post by kaiser » Sun Dec 06, 2015 6:08 pm

Actus Reus wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
kaiser wrote:If you want to be even halfway respected in the workplace, you refer to your co-workers by their first names, both in emails and in direct conversation. You aren't there to fetch them coffee, so avoid the urge to use Mr. or Ms. That goes for everyone from mailroom clerk to the firm's managing partner.
Does the same advice apply as an SA?
Jesus f y'all are so anal. Be human.
Give some slack. For many of these people, this is literally the first time they ever worked in a professional environment, so they genuinely don't know better at this point. I know, at least for me, it was a tough time adapting to an uber-formal stuffy work environment, when I'm much more the informal, laid back type that seems like he isn't taking things seriously enough.

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