In-House Timing for Rockstar Associate Forum

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Fri Nov 27, 2015 10:31 am

I am an extremely well-regarded mid-level M&A associate at a V10, double Ivy. I am quite certain that I could make partner at my firm, but I would rather go in-house and move up to an AGC/GC position as quickly as possible. With my credentials/experience, and assuming that I continue to kill it at my firm until I leave voluntarily, how long should I stay? Conventional wisdom says that 4-6 years out is the sweet spot for in-house opportunities, but I have noticed that many more senior associates leave my firm and go directly to an AGC position. I would love to shortcut the advancement process once I go in-house, so am I wrong to think that I should aim to stay for something more like 8 years?

Cogburn87 · Post by **Cogburn87** » Fri Nov 27, 2015 10:42 am

You've come to the right place. Lots of rockstars killing it here.

jbagelboy · Post by **jbagelboy** » Fri Nov 27, 2015 11:48 am

lots of us struggle with accurate self-evaluation

timesnewboston · Post by **timesnewboston** » Fri Nov 27, 2015 11:52 am

Anyone else squint-cringe when they read the title, then full-body-cringe when they read the body of the post?

FSK · Post by **FSK** » Fri Nov 27, 2015 11:55 am

Tell us tales of the rigor with which you proofread signature pages, Anonymous User.

legends159 · Post by **legends159** » Fri Nov 27, 2015 11:55 am

Make partner then lateral to GC position at F10 company. Then become POTUS for two terms before settling down as chief justice of SCOTUS. Anything less would be a disappointment given your talents and pedigree.

kellyfrost · Post by **kellyfrost** » Fri Nov 27, 2015 11:57 am

Cogburn87 wrote:You've come to the right place. Lots of rockstars killing it here.

Lol!

The self promotion/evaluation was pretty entertaining to read.

Sir, you sound like you should just start your own company and be CEO/GC. You seem to already know what you are doing.

When you submit a cover letter you should lead with: "I'm an extremely well-regarded mid-level M&A associate at a V10, double ivy." That just grabs the readers attention and just screams immediate hire!

kellyfrost · Post by **kellyfrost** » Fri Nov 27, 2015 12:08 pm

legends159 wrote:Make partner then lateral to GC position at F10 company. Then become POTUS for two terms before settling down as chief justice of SCOTUS. Anything less would be a disappointment given your talents and pedigree.

OP Anon needs to weigh his career goals. While he will probably make more money as a GC at an F10 company, being Chief Justice of SCOTUS is certainly more prestigious. He is lucky he has the credentials and ability to do whichever he chooses.

Abbie Doobie · Post by **Abbie Doobie** » Fri Nov 27, 2015 12:09 pm

i thought it was pretty funny, actually...assuming it's a flame

Traynor Brah · Post by **Traynor Brah** » Fri Nov 27, 2015 12:42 pm

Double ivy? Most impressive.

hasmith · Post by **hasmith** » Fri Nov 27, 2015 1:24 pm

Cogburn87 wrote:You've come to the right place. Lots of rockstars killing it here.

This really cracked me up! Well done.

2014 · Post by **2014** » Fri Nov 27, 2015 1:26 pm

Anonymous User wrote:I am an extremely well-regarded mid-level M&A associate at a V10, double Ivy. I am quite certain that I could make partner at my firm, but I would rather go in-house and move up to an AGC/GC position as quickly as possible. With my credentials/experience, and assuming that I continue to kill it at my firm until I leave voluntarily, how long should I stay? Conventional wisdom says that 4-6 years out is the sweet spot for in-house opportunities, but I have noticed that many more senior associates leave my firm and go directly to an AGC position. I would love to shortcut the advancement process once I go in-house, so am I wrong to think that I should aim to stay for something more like 8 years?

If you've stayed at a v10 until you are an 8th year associate then your certainty of making partner will have been misguided.

psu2016 · Post by **psu2016** » Fri Nov 27, 2015 1:39 pm

timesnewboston wrote:Anyone else squint-cringe when they read the title, then full-body-cringe when they read the body of the post?

This was my exact reaction.

mvp99 · Post by **mvp99** » Fri Nov 27, 2015 2:02 pm

Anonymous User wrote:With my credentials/experience

Your credentials look pretty standard to me.

barkschool · Post by **barkschool** » Fri Nov 27, 2015 2:29 pm

Traynor Brah wrote:Double ivy? Most impressive.

Ted Cruz, would study group

MyNameIsFlynn! · Post by **MyNameIsFlynn!** » Fri Nov 27, 2015 2:35 pm

barkschool wrote:
Traynor Brah wrote:Double ivy? Most impressive.
Ted Cruz, would study group

Not necessarily. A lower Ivy would definitely be a blemish

OP, were you double HYP? if not then you ain't as hot as you think

84651846190 · Post by **84651846190** » Fri Nov 27, 2015 3:02 pm

timesnewboston wrote:Anyone else squint-cringe when they read the title, then full-body-cringe when they read the body of the post?

OP is the type that makes biglaw unbearable, mostly because otherwise normal people try to emulate him/her.

barkschool · Post by **barkschool** » Fri Nov 27, 2015 3:33 pm

Biglaw_Associate_V20 wrote:
timesnewboston wrote:Anyone else squint-cringe when they read the title, then full-body-cringe when they read the body of the post?
OP is the type that makes biglaw unbearable, mostly because otherwise normal people try to emulate him/her.

How I assume big law:

mvp99 · Post by **mvp99** » Fri Nov 27, 2015 4:00 pm

MyNameIsFlynn! wrote:
barkschool wrote:
Traynor Brah wrote:Double ivy? Most impressive.
Ted Cruz, would study group
Not necessarily. A lower Ivy would definitely be a blemish

OP, were you double HYP? if not then you ain't as hot as you think

I think OP is double Princeton

kaiser · Post by **kaiser** » Fri Nov 27, 2015 4:28 pm

In my experience in law firm life, people who self-evaluate in this manner are almost always off in their perceptions. I don't think I've ever met a truly "rockstar" associate who actually thought of himself or herself as a "rockstar" associate. But that aside, 8 years is certainly on the longer end for the sweet spot of in-house opportunities. Seems like that 4-6 year range is far more common. From certain senior associates with whom I have spoken, they often lament now having tried for the move earlier, since they say your marketability starts to take a downturn if you wait too long (though many of them were shooting for other firms, so their comments may have been more aimed at lateral opportunities rather than in-house opportunities).

Nekrowizard · Post by **Nekrowizard** » Fri Nov 27, 2015 6:41 pm

Anonymous User wrote:I am an extremely well-regarded mid-level M&A associate at a V10, double Ivy. I am quite certain that I could make partner at my firm, but I would rather go in-house and move up to an AGC/GC position as quickly as possible. With my credentials/experience, and assuming that I continue to kill it at my firm until I leave voluntarily, how long should I stay? Conventional wisdom says that 4-6 years out is the sweet spot for in-house opportunities, but I have noticed that many more senior associates leave my firm and go directly to an AGC position. I would love to shortcut the advancement process once I go in-house, so am I wrong to think that I should aim to stay for something more like 8 years?

Sincerely,

Cornell/Penn

FSK · Post by **FSK** » Fri Nov 27, 2015 6:42 pm

OP please come back

OP Please

lacrossebrother · Post by **lacrossebrother** » Fri Nov 27, 2015 6:50 pm

Why not just have your firm make you a partner now or threaten to take your book elsewhere? And then after making partner, place yourself on the board at one of the clients you have provided rockstar service to?

Companion Cube · Post by **Companion Cube** » Fri Nov 27, 2015 7:15 pm

flawschoolkid wrote:OP please come back

OP Please

How can they keep up that rockstar status if they spend all their time on TLS? its that sort of thinking that separates the double ivy's from the rest of us plebs.

Effingham · Post by **Effingham** » Fri Nov 27, 2015 7:27 pm

Thought this was going to be a thread for going in-house at rockstar

Where's my BIG ENERGY DRINK law?

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