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Only offer is in a practice area I don't like
Hey there,
2L at a T14 school here. I'm in the top 10 percent of my class or so.
I currently have one offer in my target market (it's a secondary market that's tough to break into). The pay is find, but the issue is that the firm is not prestigious. At all. So my exit options would be slim. And, more importantly, they currently only have an IP practice and a transactional practice -- but my heart is set on litigation.
Given that this is my only offer, I'll have to accept it. But does this mean I'm doomed to practicing transactional law forever? How do I dig myself out of this mess?
2L at a T14 school here. I'm in the top 10 percent of my class or so.
I currently have one offer in my target market (it's a secondary market that's tough to break into). The pay is find, but the issue is that the firm is not prestigious. At all. So my exit options would be slim. And, more importantly, they currently only have an IP practice and a transactional practice -- but my heart is set on litigation.
Given that this is my only offer, I'll have to accept it. But does this mean I'm doomed to practicing transactional law forever? How do I dig myself out of this mess?
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Re: Only offer is in a practice area I don't like
I hate TLS sometimesAnonymous User wrote:Hey there,
2L at a T14 school here. I'm in the top 10 percent of my class or so.
I currently have one offer in my target market (it's a secondary market that's tough to break into). The pay is find, but the issue is that the firm is not prestigious. At all. So my exit options would be slim. And, more importantly, they currently only have an IP practice and a transactional practice -- but my heart is set on litigation.
Given that this is my only offer, I'll have to accept it. But does this mean I'm doomed to practicing transactional law forever? How do I dig myself out of this mess?
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Well, this is your only offer in your hard-to-break-into secondary market. But I assume you applied--as a backup--to primary markets. As a top-10% student at a T14, you probably have multiple offers in at least one of those markets. If I were you, I would accept an offer at a litigation-heavy firm in a primary market, and then try to break into a litigation group in your secondary market at 3L OCI (or even after graduation).Anonymous User wrote:Given that this is my only offer, I'll have to accept it. But does this mean I'm doomed to practicing transactional law forever? How do I dig myself out of this mess?
As DF suggests, it's hard to get out of trans if you start there.
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Re: Only offer is in a practice area I don't like
I accepted an offer in transactional even though I wanted lit because it was nice to have a job. Now I'm here and it's not so bad. Suck it up and be thankful.
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idk how grateful anyone needs to be to be a lawyer
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This is garbage advice. You're talking about potentially the rest of your career. OP should probably take it but definitely keep looking for other options for next summer, apply to clerk, and do 3L OCI.Danger Zone wrote:I accepted an offer in transactional even though I wanted lit because it was nice to have a job. Now I'm here and it's not so bad. Suck it up and be thankful.
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I didn't say OP has to do what I did. I'm just asking him to stop thinking he's entitled to anything better. Because he's not, and plenty of his classmates would kill for that offer.dixiecupdrinking wrote:This is garbage advice. You're talking about potentially the rest of your career. OP should probably take it but definitely keep looking for other options for next summer, apply to clerk, and do 3L OCI.Danger Zone wrote:I accepted an offer in transactional even though I wanted lit because it was nice to have a job. Now I'm here and it's not so bad. Suck it up and be thankful.
Eta: or "she." Equality!
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cr. we're all idiots for going to law school, just to varying degrees--except for superhumans like Xeoh who would have been successful at anything they did, but they don't really countDELG wrote:idk how grateful anyone needs to be to be a lawyer
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Re: Only offer is in a practice area I don't like
I don't know about you but when I sat at my desk doing boring first year work I was relieved to remember how PRESTIGIOUS my firm is.Danger Zone wrote:I hate TLS sometimesAnonymous User wrote:Hey there,
2L at a T14 school here. I'm in the top 10 percent of my class or so.
I currently have one offer in my target market (it's a secondary market that's tough to break into). The pay is find, but the issue is that the firm is not prestigious. At all. So my exit options would be slim. And, more importantly, they currently only have an IP practice and a transactional practice -- but my heart is set on litigation.
Given that this is my only offer, I'll have to accept it. But does this mean I'm doomed to practicing transactional law forever? How do I dig myself out of this mess?
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OP here. Prestige matters because the exit options, obviously. And for things like snagging a clerkship. Just today I told a judge where I would be working for the summer and she said, "why didn't you pick a larger firm, like [well-known firm X?]." I'm sure that won't be the last time I get asked that.
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Yeah, I know the most important thing to me is impressing boomersAnonymous User wrote:OP here. Prestige matters because the exit options, obviously. And for things like snagging a clerkship. Just today I told a judge where I would be working for the summer and she said, "why didn't you pick a larger firm, like [well-known firm X?]." I'm sure that won't be the last time I get asked that.
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Re: Only offer is in a practice area I don't like
Of all the things that factor into your chances of getting a clerkship, the "prestige" of your summer law firm is quite low on the list. It's like:Anonymous User wrote:OP here. Prestige matters because the exit options, obviously. And for things like snagging a clerkship. Just today I told a judge where I would be working for the summer and she said, "why didn't you pick a larger firm, like [well-known firm X?]." I'm sure that won't be the last time I get asked that.
Law School+Class Rank>>>>>Rec Letters>Law Review>>Work Experience>>Moot Court>Hobbies/Interests>Summer Law Firm.
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obviouslyAnonymous User wrote:OP here. Prestige matters because the exit options, obviously.
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Cogburn87 wrote:obviouslyAnonymous User wrote:OP here. Prestige matters because the exit options, obviously.
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Yeah. Judges may not know anything about the firm you work for, let alone care.rpupkin wrote:Of all the things that factor into your chances of getting a clerkship, the "prestige" of your summer law firm is quite low on the list. It's like:Anonymous User wrote:OP here. Prestige matters because the exit options, obviously. And for things like snagging a clerkship. Just today I told a judge where I would be working for the summer and she said, "why didn't you pick a larger firm, like [well-known firm X?]." I'm sure that won't be the last time I get asked that.
Law School+Class Rank>>>>>Rec Letters>Law Review>>Work Experience>>Moot Court>Hobbies/Interests>Summer Law Firm.
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You do know that telling someone to just accept the offer to do something they don't want to do with their life and like it is it's own weird brand of boomerism, right?Danger Zone wrote:Yeah, I know the most important thing to me is impressing boomersAnonymous User wrote:OP here. Prestige matters because the exit options, obviously. And for things like snagging a clerkship. Just today I told a judge where I would be working for the summer and she said, "why didn't you pick a larger firm, like [well-known firm X?]." I'm sure that won't be the last time I get asked that.
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It's like reverse bootstraps. "I accepted a shit outcome, so can you!"skers wrote:You do know that telling someone to just accept the offer to do something they don't want to do with their life and like it is it's own weird brand of boomerism, right?Danger Zone wrote:Yeah, I know the most important thing to me is impressing boomersAnonymous User wrote:OP here. Prestige matters because the exit options, obviously. And for things like snagging a clerkship. Just today I told a judge where I would be working for the summer and she said, "why didn't you pick a larger firm, like [well-known firm X?]." I'm sure that won't be the last time I get asked that.
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I know a story about a COA judge confusing someone's V5 with a firm that went bust and asking the incoming (alumni) clerk if she was gonna be okay.A. Nony Mouse wrote: Yeah. Judges may not know anything about the firm you work for, let alone care.
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SA offers can come from just a single practice group? I thought that that happens at the end of an SA?
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OP here. Yes, some offers are practice area specific. Many secondary market firms and even a few large, primary market firms interviewed me for a specific practice group -- eg the trial group.
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