Practicing Lawyers' Opinions Please - Rank in terms of badness Forum

[ballouttacontrol]

MY QUESTION to practicing lawyers

Rank these in terms of which is the WORST, e.g., #1 you are LEAST likely to recommend an offer, and #3 you are LEAST likely to recommend an offer

• The firm wasn't the right "fit"
• Poor work product
• ATL-worthy story of 1 very bad night partying WAY too hard at firm event

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[84651846190]

A few questions:

1. How tall are you?

2. How much do you squat?

3. What law school / grades?

4. Are you a 3L now? Graduate?

[ballouttacontrol]

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[smaug]

This is a lot of work for flame, so you're either crazy or crazy for putting this much work into it.

Shine on you crazy cat.

[ballouttacontrol]

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[smaug]

Tell us more about the man behind the keyboard. Is this something you planned out, or are you just winging it? I enjoyed the IP RESUME bit. That was fun.

[ballouttacontrol]

Tell us more about the man behind the keyboard. Is this something you planned out, or are you just winging it? I enjoyed the IP RESUME bit. That was fun.

Jealous? I'm guessing not, but nor I of you.

So thanks for stopping by

[smaug]

I'm very jealous of you. I wish I had what it takes to be a high effort troll but I always fuck it up.


TEACH ME.

[ballouttacontrol]

Dude, I'm sorry I don't have 6000 fucking posts. And I've been on TLS for a long time but I wasn't going to post on that account, which I have openly messaged my classmates from. I understand this is against the rules, so if warranted, Mods please delete my thread and other post.

OTOH, even normal fun people can feel like they want to post on an anonymous forum sometimes, for possible a similar reason you're here instead of talking to people in real life

[FSK]

This is flame because the details don't line up. Top 5-10 schools, above median in the last hiring cycle, and you didn't got to a 100% offer firm, AND you somehow managed to get 5 Callbacks in 3L OCI? Doesn't make any sense.

[ballouttacontrol]

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[smaug]

How do I become a top IP candidate masterman.

[ballouttacontrol]

How do I become a top IP candidate masterman.

Whatever dude, there's a reason almost every single law firm website has a job posting "Intellectual Property Group - EE/CS background or similar"

[ballouttacontrol]

On-topic though, I'm really surprised at the poll results.

I would have thought work product would be the worst, or that more just in IP? I have heard of people getting no offered from even 95% offer IP firms for bad work product. Or could be OLs I suppose

[anyriotgirl]

so what did you do?

[ballouttacontrol]

Removed the personal stuff bc I didn't come here to defend myself from trolls.

Anyone have any feedback on the actual question though?

[Clearly]

I think you guys are too fast to call troll here. Why is it so hard to believe someone got no offered for partying?

[jhett]

I think you guys are too fast to call troll here. Why is it so hard to believe someone got no offered for partying?

Because OP's now-deleted story was embellished with a bunch of irrelevant details about hanging out with hot girls, partying and drinking like an animal all the time, and being a "rockstar" summer. It wasn't even a humblebrag... it was straight brag.

He could have posed the same question with far fewer details (that serve no purpose other than to out him if the story is true).

Therefore, OP is either a troll or needs rehab.

[A. Nony Mouse]

If OP isn't trolling... The fact that people who read the story think you might need rehab may explain why it would not be a good explanation to give for a no-offer.

Also, poor fit and work product issues are both vague enough that they could be understood as firms making an excuse (maybe), but being unable to control your partying in a work context is a completely concrete example of really bad judgment or substance abuse issues, neither of which inspires confidence in this super risk-averse field.

[Anonymous User]

Work product worst to tell people
Partying 2nd
Fit 1st

Fit can be portrayed multiple ways - practice groups, location, future of firm, etc.

Partying is bad but maybe you spin it as you've learned your lesson

Work product is telling firms that you suck at your job

[ballouttacontrol]

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[star fox]

I think you guys are too fast to call troll here. Why is it so hard to believe someone got no offered for partying?

Well the username "ballaouttacontrol" was a pretty good sign of a flame.

[smaug]

So pretty much you're claiming you were a no offered Desmarais summer right?

Teach us how to ball like you.

[OneMoreLawHopeful]

Do you the posters calling flame not remember this?

http://coed.com/2015/07/01/35-year-old- ... -and-blow/

Friends of mine at Latham have confirmed many of the details (while maintaining that others are overblown), so I'm willing to believe it's remotely possible that this is the same guy.

[notgreat]

Are you sure it wasn't just that the office didn't have enough work/financial reasons for no offering you? My understanding is that sometimes when that is the case the firm will point to thing like work product/fit/partying to explain the no offer, when it was really that they didn't have the work. If it's possible that is what happened that is what I would say.