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"Splitting" summer between firm & PI?
I have an offer for next summer from a firm that I like, but I'm also into a certain sphere of PI work that I'd like to spend some time on. I've been thinking lately that I could do the 8-10 weeks at the firm and still have about 6 at the end of the summer to do PI work before school starts (and possibly build up my bona fides in case I want to look for a PI job after biglaw).
Is this something that people do?
Is there a way to know what PI places are willing to do this short of emailing everyone?
Procedural things I should know?
Any help or advice would be great!!
Is this something that people do?
Is there a way to know what PI places are willing to do this short of emailing everyone?
Procedural things I should know?
Any help or advice would be great!!
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Re: "Splitting" summer between firm & PI?
You might as well write "DONT OFFER ME" on your forehead before showing up to work. Terrible idea.
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Re: "Splitting" summer between firm & PI?
I've known people who've done this. The reaction depends on the firm. I think my current firm would prefer a split with a PI org over a split with another law firm. I mean, you should be cautious about it, but I disagree that it's categorically a terrible idea. If there's someone at the firm you can talk to in confidence about it (such as an alumnus of your school who is currently an associate), I would do that.Anonymous User wrote:You might as well write "DONT OFFER ME" on your forehead before showing up to work. Terrible idea.
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Re: "Splitting" summer between firm & PI?
Curious how your firm even finds out that a SA is doing this? Isn't the summer just there for 10-12 weeks and then they just disappear into the void until they show up again a year and a half later or not?rpupkin wrote:I've known people who've done this. The reaction depends on the firm. I think my current firm would prefer a split with a PI org over a split with another law firm. I mean, you should be cautious about it, but I disagree that's it's categorically a terrible idea. If there's someone at the firm you can talk to in confidence about it (such as an alumnus of your school who is currently an associate), I would do that.Anonymous User wrote:You might as well write "DONT OFFER ME" on your forehead before showing up to work. Terrible idea.
If the OP's plan is 10 weeks at a firm followed by 6 weeks at a PI org I would think he wouldn't even have to tell the firm. I might be missing something here though.
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Re: "Splitting" summer between firm & PI?
That's what I was thinking... I wouldn't even bring it up with the firm. The hurdle - in my mind, at least - is finding a PI org willing to do it? Perhaps I wasn't clear in the OP.BigZuck wrote:Curious how your firm even finds out that a SA is doing this? Isn't the summer just there for 10-12 weeks and then they just disappear into the void until they show up again a year and a half later or not?rpupkin wrote:I've known people who've done this. The reaction depends on the firm. I think my current firm would prefer a split with a PI org over a split with another law firm. I mean, you should be cautious about it, but I disagree that's it's categorically a terrible idea. If there's someone at the firm you can talk to in confidence about it (such as an alumnus of your school who is currently an associate), I would do that.Anonymous User wrote:You might as well write "DONT OFFER ME" on your forehead before showing up to work. Terrible idea.
If the OP's plan is 10 weeks at a firm followed by 6 weeks at a PI org I would think he wouldn't even have to tell the firm. I might be missing something here though.
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Re: "Splitting" summer between firm & PI?
Just this summer, a SA left a couple of weeks early (so eight weeks instead of the usual ten) in order to do a 5-week PI stint. We didn't have a problem with it--if anything, it probably made the SA seem more appealing. Then again, my firm values pro bono work (and involvement in community orgs) more than the typical firm. That's why it's worth asking someone at the firm about the firm's likely attitude about this kind of thing.BigZuck wrote:Curious how your firm even finds out that a SA is doing this? Isn't the summer just there for 10-12 weeks and then they just disappear into the void until they show up again a year and a half later or not?rpupkin wrote:I've known people who've done this. The reaction depends on the firm. I think my current firm would prefer a split with a PI org over a split with another law firm. I mean, you should be cautious about it, but I disagree that's it's categorically a terrible idea. If there's someone at the firm you can talk to in confidence about it (such as an alumnus of your school who is currently an associate), I would do that.Anonymous User wrote:You might as well write "DONT OFFER ME" on your forehead before showing up to work. Terrible idea.
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Re: "Splitting" summer between firm & PI?
Wouldn't you have to tell the firm for conflicts purposes? Either way, why would the firm react negatively? You aren't really splitting your summer. It seems more like you're trying to beef up your resume.BigZuck wrote:Curious how your firm even finds out that a SA is doing this? Isn't the summer just there for 10-12 weeks and then they just disappear into the void until they show up again a year and a half later or not?rpupkin wrote:I've known people who've done this. The reaction depends on the firm. I think my current firm would prefer a split with a PI org over a split with another law firm. I mean, you should be cautious about it, but I disagree that's it's categorically a terrible idea. If there's someone at the firm you can talk to in confidence about it (such as an alumnus of your school who is currently an associate), I would do that.Anonymous User wrote:You might as well write "DONT OFFER ME" on your forehead before showing up to work. Terrible idea.
If the OP's plan is 10 weeks at a firm followed by 6 weeks at a PI org I would think he wouldn't even have to tell the firm. I might be missing something here though.
That being said, I think an externship would be better.
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Re: "Splitting" summer between firm & PI?
That's a little risky. If you want to play it like that, make sure your firm doesn't represent clients that are adverse to the PI org in litigation.robotrick wrote: That's what I was thinking... I wouldn't even bring it up with the firm. The hurdle - in my mind, at least - is finding a PI org willing to do it? Perhaps I wasn't clear in the OP.
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Re: "Splitting" summer between firm & PI?
Good point (made by instride91 as well). I hadn't thought of that. They're very different areas of the law, but I will be on the lookout for conflicts.rpupkin wrote:That's a little risky. If you want to play it like that, make sure your firm doesn't represent clients that are adverse to the PI org in litigation.robotrick wrote: That's what I was thinking... I wouldn't even bring it up with the firm. The hurdle - in my mind, at least - is finding a PI org willing to do it? Perhaps I wasn't clear in the OP.
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Re: "Splitting" summer between firm & PI?
I think the conflicts thing is what I was missing. Makes sense.
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