Surprise C&F Issue Forum

[Anonymous User]

I've been working on my C&F application for the Bar. They require me to send in all my UG transcripts, so I was going back to my many UG institutions (3+, I transferred a lot) and requesting official copies. My degree-granting school had a transfer credit review hold on my account from like 2 years ago, so I called to see what that was. They said they changed systems, so they're making sure everyone's transfer credit in the system matches up with what was actually submitted. It took them a few hours but a registrar officer supposedly looked at everything and said everything was okay.

So when they were done I pulled up my unofficial transcript. I noticed an error... It looks like 6 years ago when I transferred to my degree granting school, when they were compiling my mess of transfer credits, they counted 3 1-credit music classes twice. It looks like two bring my gpa up and one brings it down. I haven't actually calculated it out, but this probably improved my still low (~3.2x) LSAC GPA by maybe a couple hundredths (I have a ton of UG credits). What the hell do I do?

It seems like I could pretend I didn't notice because nobody else has, including the registrar who was specifically looking for transfer errors a couple days ago, but that seems not okay. And this is C&F. Amending my law school apps as a 3L and proving it was just an administrative error sounds hellish and would also look really bad. Is this one of those what's easy vs. what's right situations? Ugh.

Edit: Oh and please don't quote this.

[Anonymous User]

I went into my dean's office midway through 3L, head held low, anticipating a thrashing about how I hadn't amended my application earlier and how it was a big issue (disclosure issue). I wasn't dishonest, but TLS and paranoia had convinced me that I had misread the requirements of the application and that if I didn't do this now, even this late in the game, C&F would catch on and there'd be an issue.

I walked in and explained and they sort of just chuckled and asked if that was it. They then told me nothing was wrong but if I was really concerned they'd write a letter saying that I had disclosed the proper amount and that anything nondisclosed was not sought in the application.

I highly suspect whatever you do will end up similarly.

[A. Nony Mouse]

So the error was on the transcript you submitted to your LS, right? And they apparently didn't notice/care? I can't imagine how this would be a problem - you didn't fail to disclose anything, everyone else screwed up the calculation. Talk to your school to see if/what they want you to amend. Plenty of people discover errors when going through bar materials. I really don't think it's going to look bad.

[Anonymous User]

So the error was on the transcript you submitted to your LS, right? And they apparently didn't notice/care? I can't imagine how this would be a problem - you didn't fail to disclose anything, everyone else screwed up the calculation. Talk to your school to see if/what they want you to amend. Plenty of people discover errors when going through bar materials. I really don't think it's going to look bad.

Yup. Law school didn't notice, I didn't notice, LSAC didn't notice, and neither did the UG when entering my transfer credits, reviewing my transcripts for graduation, or a couple days ago when they were randomly specifically looking for transfer errors. I'm freaking out a little because I probably should have noticed earlier -- it was really just a matter of going through line by line and saying "huh I wasn't in the marching band there. Oh fuck, this is also listed under the same semester of the school I was in marching band at. That's counted twice."

[Anonymous User]

I went into my dean's office midway through 3L, head held low, anticipating a thrashing about how I hadn't amended my application earlier and how it was a big issue (disclosure issue). I wasn't dishonest, but TLS and paranoia had convinced me that I had misread the requirements of the application and that if I didn't do this now, even this late in the game, C&F would catch on and there'd be an issue.

I walked in and explained and they sort of just chuckled and asked if that was it. They then told me nothing was wrong but if I was really concerned they'd write a letter saying that I had disclosed the proper amount and that anything nondisclosed was not sought in the application.

I highly suspect whatever you do will end up similarly.

How much trouble did the Bar give you for this?

[Anonymous User]

I went into my dean's office midway through 3L, head held low, anticipating a thrashing about how I hadn't amended my application earlier and how it was a big issue (disclosure issue). I wasn't dishonest, but TLS and paranoia had convinced me that I had misread the requirements of the application and that if I didn't do this now, even this late in the game, C&F would catch on and there'd be an issue.

I walked in and explained and they sort of just chuckled and asked if that was it. They then told me nothing was wrong but if I was really concerned they'd write a letter saying that I had disclosed the proper amount and that anything nondisclosed was not sought in the application.

I highly suspect whatever you do will end up similarly.

How much trouble did the Bar give you for this?

Zero, C&F breezed through. Did not take the dean up on the offer of the attachment letter, either, just submitted everything as, because there was nothing to correct so adding a correction would only make things seem shady.

[Anonymous User]

Okay so I happen to be in my UG's town because 3lol, so I'm going to hit the registrar's office and get this fixed. I printed out and compared an old transcript to a post-hold release one and hilariously, they did change something (credit counts don't like up, but I can't tell what exactly) but not the thing I know is wrong. Nothing else is wrong as far as I can tell, so I don't even know what's going on anymore. Man I hope this doesn't fuck me somehow.

[zot1]

Look, Character and Fitness is trying to test just that, character and fitness. They will not give you trouble for something you had no clue about until recently AND which you are attempting to correct.

You will be fine. Say it with me!