Who to get reference from? Forum

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Mon Jul 27, 2015 11:18 am

I work for a judge this summer (rising 2L). The majority of my interaction is not with the judge however; it is with her lead research attorney.

I want to ask for a reference today. Should I ask th attorney or the judge? Thanks.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Mon Jul 27, 2015 5:26 pm

Why not both

CanadianWolf · Post by **CanadianWolf** » Mon Jul 27, 2015 5:27 pm

Both.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Mon Jul 27, 2015 5:30 pm

Do I need to bring in references or a recommendation letter to an OCI interview?

rinkrat19 · Post by **rinkrat19** » Mon Jul 27, 2015 5:33 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Do I need to bring in references or a recommendation letter to an OCI interview?

I've never heard of needing a LOR. But a few OCI interviewers might want you to either submit a list of references ahead of time or bring them with you to the interview. (It's relatively uncommon compared to them wanting your transcripts, cover letter, resume, and writing sample, though.)

CanadianWolf · Post by **CanadianWolf** » Mon Jul 27, 2015 5:34 pm

You need references. I think that it would be unusual to bring a letter of recommendation with you.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Mon Jul 27, 2015 5:39 pm

How do you present references then? On a sheet of paper? Do you just let your boss know that you will be using him as a reference?

CanadianWolf · Post by **CanadianWolf** » Mon Jul 27, 2015 5:41 pm

Always ask if you can use one as a reference. The best references come from one who has been your direct supervisor & is familiar with your work. Many add "references available upon request" on their resume.

rinkrat19 · Post by **rinkrat19** » Mon Jul 27, 2015 5:42 pm

Anonymous User wrote:How do you present references then? On a sheet of paper? Do you just let your boss know that you will be using him as a reference?

You ask your boss, "would it be all right if I included you on my list of references? May I use your work email and phone number?"
Then you make up a page of 3-4 references in a format that aesthetically matches your resume formatting. You have that as a PDF and as a piece of paper. Then you provide it however the employer tells you to. (Uploaded to simplicity, emailed to someone, printed out and brought to the interview, etc.)

Do not put "references upon request" on your resume. It's a waste of space and there is already an implied offer of references upon request just by applying. If they want references, they'll ask for them, whether you include that on your resume or not.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Mon Jul 27, 2015 5:44 pm

great answers. thank you.

CanadianWolf · Post by **CanadianWolf** » Mon Jul 27, 2015 5:46 pm

Since you've received conflicting suggestions, it might be worthwhile to contact your law school career services office to get their suggestion. "References available upon request" is not a waste of resume space.

P.S. But to be fair, it has been decades since I sought an entry level position.

RaceJudicata · Post by **RaceJudicata** » Mon Jul 27, 2015 6:00 pm

CanadianWolf wrote:Since you've received conflicting suggestions, it might be worthwhile to contact your law school career services office to get their suggestion. "References available upon request" is not a waste of resume space.

P.S. But to be fair, it has been decades since I sought an entry level position.

Personally, "references available" seems like a total waste... If an employer wants a reference, they will ask, and the potential employee will certainly provide it. No one is looking at resume and saying: "woah! this guy/gal has references available, lets hire him or her over these other people who didn't mention it, they must be unable to provide any quality references."

rinkrat19 · Post by **rinkrat19** » Mon Jul 27, 2015 6:03 pm

RaceJudicata wrote:
CanadianWolf wrote:Since you've received conflicting suggestions, it might be worthwhile to contact your law school career services office to get their suggestion. "References available upon request" is not a waste of resume space.

P.S. But to be fair, it has been decades since I sought an entry level position.

Personally, "references available" seems like a total waste... If an employer wants a reference, they will ask, and the potential employee will certainly provide it. No one is looking at resume and saying: "woah! this guy/gal has references available, lets hire him or her over these other people who didn't mention it, they must be unable to provide any quality references."

It has definitely gone the way of the dodo, along with an Objective statement, on resumes.

CanadianWolf · Post by **CanadianWolf** » Mon Jul 27, 2015 7:00 pm

OP: Again, it wouldn't hurt to ask your law school career services office what is the norm in your area.

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