Boies Schiller CB question Forum

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Fri Jul 24, 2015 2:53 pm

Does anyone have data/information on Boies Schiller's CB offer ratio? Just wondering because they have such a small SA class if getting [/list]a callback still indicates that you have (about) as good a chance as you would at another NYC biglaw firm. I know there's always variation in CB-->offer ratios generally, but I'm just wondering if anyone know anything specific about the cb/offer ratio at Boies.

Thanks!

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Sat Jul 25, 2015 2:28 pm

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Sat Jul 25, 2015 2:38 pm

It greatly varies by office and year. When you're dealing with such small numbers the percentages are pretty much useless. You can have about .25 to .5 chance of an offer after callback. Could be better, could be worse.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Sat Jul 25, 2015 2:45 pm

how do you know that?

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Sat Jul 25, 2015 2:52 pm

CLS releases this kind of info.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Sat Jul 25, 2015 3:05 pm

Was wondering the same thing. any hard data?

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Sat Jul 25, 2015 3:15 pm

For 2013 at CLS, they interviewed 18, called back 13, 11 went on the CB. 5 offers extended. 2 accepted. (ETA this was NYC)

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Anonymous User wrote:It greatly varies by office and year. When you're dealing with such small numbers the percentages are pretty much useless. You can have about .25 to .5 chance of an offer after callback. Could be better, could be worse.

Mack.Hambleton · Post by **Mack.Hambleton** » Sat Jul 25, 2015 3:16 pm

I can look up HLS EIP data for it when I get home

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Sat Jul 25, 2015 4:34 pm

That would be awesome -- any stats for different cites would be sweet to if you have it.

nothingtosee · Post by **nothingtosee** » Sat Jul 25, 2015 4:40 pm

from HLS:
2 HLS students have accepted an offer at Boies Schiller in NY since 2010.
40.9% of bids secured interviews. (50.6% last year: 40/79.)
40.5% of interviews secured callbacks. (35% last year: 14/40.)
60.3% of interviewees offered a callback attended. (92.9% last year.)
61% of callback attendees have been offered a summer position. (53.8% last year: 7/13.)
8% of those offered a summer position accepted. (14.3% last year: 1/7.)

3 HLS students have accepted an offer at Boies Schiller in DC since 2010.
43.9% of bids secured interviews. (38.1% last year: 16/42.)
41.1% of interviews secured callbacks. (43.8% last year: 7/16.)
89.2% of interviewees offered a callback attended. (100% last year.)
54.5% of callback attendees have been offered a summer position. (57.1% last year: 4/7.)
16.7% of those offered a summer position accepted. (25% last year: 1/4.)

2 HLS students have accepted an offer at Boies Schiller in California since 2010.
22.2% of bids secured interviews.
75% of interviews secured callbacks.
100% of interviewees offered a callback attended.
66.7% of callback attendees have been offered a summer position.
100% of those offered a summer position accepted.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Sat Jul 25, 2015 5:30 pm

awesome thanks!

any thoughts on why the offer extended/offer accepted ratio (especially in NYC) is so [surprisingly] low?

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Sat Jul 25, 2015 6:59 pm

Who knows. If it's me, and I want NYC lit, I ain't turning down that pay and you can't beat it for lit

nothingtosee · Post by **nothingtosee** » Sat Jul 25, 2015 7:30 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Who knows. If it's me, and I want NYC lit, I ain't turning down that pay and you can't beat it for lit

SOLID anon post

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Sat Jul 25, 2015 8:21 pm

Yeah amen.

But srsly, ideas?

Elston Gunn · Post by **Elston Gunn** » Sat Jul 25, 2015 8:35 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Yeah amen.

But srsly, ideas?

I mean, isn't it pretty clearly a combination of A) law students being slaves to Vault, B) some people wanting a firm with a stronger corporate practice because they aren't set on lit, and C) the students who get Boies offers often having offers at other elite lit shops too? It wouldn't be surprising if a HLR person picks W&C or Keker etc. over Boies. Then add in a little of Boies having an extra sweatshoppy reputation that could lead people to take something like Paul Weiss over them, and people just having random preferences based on who they meet on their callbacks.

sundance95 · Post by **sundance95** » Mon Jul 27, 2015 11:41 am

It's also Boies' reputation for being a sweatshop. Yes, at least you are being paid more (unlike Quinn) but many people -- even those set on lit -- don't want to work at a place where 2400 is a standard benchmark year.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Mon Jul 27, 2015 2:07 pm

Agreed on above. I wanted to do lit, but wanted nothing to do with Boies. Yeah they're above market in pay/bonus, but that reputation is tough to shake. Biglaw is crazy hours all around, but getting a rep for crazier hours in that field is pretty damning from a recruit standpoint.

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