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What do you think median at SLS is (after 1L)?

3H
8
21%
4H
13
33%
5H
10
26%
6H
8
21%
 
Total votes: 39

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Let's Determine Median at SLS via a scientifically-accurate poll

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Jul 06, 2015 1:56 pm

Have at it, lurkers, I know you are here.

Feel free to post other percentiles if you think you know them (top 10, 20 etc)

Assuming 14 grades with 2 seminars at 40% Hs and Fed Lit grades at 50% per grade (there were a confirmed 27Hs for all of fed lit), average should be exactly 5.

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Re: Median at SLS

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Jul 06, 2015 2:19 pm

I would guess 5 given the extra Fed Lit grade this year.

But I'm not really basing that on much other than bumping up estimates from previous years by an H.

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Re: Median at SLS

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Jul 06, 2015 2:28 pm

Have you guys got all your grades back?

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Re: Median at SLS

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Jul 06, 2015 2:29 pm

Anonymous User wrote:I would guess 5 given the extra Fed Lit grade this year.

But I'm not really basing that on much other than bumping up estimates from previous years by an H.
That's what I assumed too. Plus they said if you have 4 or fewer to use all of your bids, and I was told that they usually lowball that number.

I'm still missing one grade.

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Re: Median at SLS

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Jul 06, 2015 4:19 pm

im guessing between four and five because more grades and fedlit inflation

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Re: Median at SLS

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Jul 06, 2015 4:43 pm

As someone who got (and deserved) straight P's in fedlit...ugh.

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Re: Let's Determine Median at SLS via a scientifically-accurate poll

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Jul 06, 2015 4:53 pm

Anonymous User wrote:As someone who got (and deserved) straight P's in fedlit...ugh.
That sucks :( I haven't heard of anyone getting straight Ps...I thought the whole point of that professionalism grade was to give people an H who didn't have any?

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Re: Let's Determine Median at SLS via a scientifically-accurate poll

Post by Anonymous User » Mon Jul 06, 2015 5:10 pm

Those curves are wrong, unless they've changed since when I was there: only 33% of folks in exam classes get Hs; 40% in other classes (like Fed Lit). https://www.law.stanford.edu/sites/defa ... 202012.pdf

And what's with this additional fedlit grade? Apparently something's changed :)

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Re: Let's Determine Median at SLS via a scientifically-accurate poll

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Jul 09, 2015 12:58 pm

Anonymous User wrote:Those curves are wrong, unless they've changed since when I was there: only 33% of folks in exam classes get Hs; 40% in other classes (like Fed Lit). https://www.law.stanford.edu/sites/defa ... 202012.pdf

And what's with this additional fedlit grade? Apparently something's changed :)
Obviously stuff has changed.

30% get Hs in exam classes
40% in seminars
50% for the fed lit grades.

There are 3 grades for all of fed lit for 18 people classes, and 27 available Hs. The Hs appear to have clustered between HHH and PPH.

Can't imagine why.

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Re: Let's Determine Median at SLS via a scientifically-accurate poll

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Jul 09, 2015 1:10 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Those curves are wrong, unless they've changed since when I was there: only 33% of folks in exam classes get Hs; 40% in other classes (like Fed Lit). https://www.law.stanford.edu/sites/defa ... 202012.pdf

And what's with this additional fedlit grade? Apparently something's changed :)
Obviously stuff has changed.

30% get Hs in exam classes
40% in seminars
50% for the fed lit grades.

There are 3 grades for all of fed lit for 18 people classes, and 27 available Hs. The Hs appear to have clustered between HHH and PPH.

Can't imagine why.

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Re: Let's Determine Median at SLS via a scientifically-accurate poll

Post by iliketurtles123 » Thu Jul 09, 2015 1:17 pm

Lol at this poll...

This isnt even close to accurate given:
1) the poll asks what users THINK the median is, and doesnt ask for any other data
2) selection bias

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Re: Let's Determine Median at SLS via a scientifically-accurate poll

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Jul 09, 2015 1:21 pm

The selection bias issue is why I did what people think median is, not what grades people got, because "what do you think median is" presumes you have some sort of idea. But no poll taking from top-law-schools.com/forums is going to be accurate in that sense.

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Re: Let's Determine Median at SLS via a scientifically-accurate poll

Post by Anonymous User » Thu Jul 16, 2015 4:26 pm

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Those curves are wrong, unless they've changed since when I was there: only 33% of folks in exam classes get Hs; 40% in other classes (like Fed Lit). https://www.law.stanford.edu/sites/defa ... 202012.pdf

And what's with this additional fedlit grade? Apparently something's changed :)
Obviously stuff has changed.

30% get Hs in exam classes
40% in seminars
50% for the fed lit grades.

There are 3 grades for all of fed lit for 18 people classes, and 27 available Hs. The Hs appear to have clustered between HHH and PPH.

Can't imagine why.

:|
Where did this 50% Hs in fed lit come from? Did you ask everyone in your fed lit class for their grades?

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Re: Let's Determine Median at SLS via a scientifically-accurate poll

Post by Anonymous User » Fri Jul 17, 2015 8:07 am

Apparently most fedlit instructors were told/collectively decided not to let too many people get all Ps. The term my instructor used was "spread the Hs around." So I think for a lot of sections, it was a lot of HHPs or PPHs.

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Re: Let's Determine Median at SLS via a scientifically-accurate poll

Post by Anonymous User » Sun Aug 16, 2015 12:40 am

bump no reason

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Re: Let's Determine Median at SLS via a scientifically-accurate poll

Post by Anonymous User » Sun Aug 16, 2015 2:21 am

My prof also dropped the "spread the H's thing." I'd assume most people had HHP or PPH (all that I've talked with have had one of these two).

Also, almost everyone I've talked with seems to have a lot more than 4 H's, although I think there's an obvious grain of salt with that.

OCS advised that people with 4 H's or under use all a lot of/all of their bids. I would say that's somewhere around median.

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Re: Let's Determine Median at SLS via a scientifically-accurate poll

Post by Anonymous User » Sun Aug 16, 2015 2:55 am

Just curious how everyone is doing at OCI. I have 7 Hs and have gone 5 for 15 with callbacks, bidding DC SF and NY

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Re: Let's Determine Median at SLS via a scientifically-accurate poll

Post by Anonymous User » Sun Aug 16, 2015 3:03 am

Anonymous User wrote:Just curious how everyone is doing at OCI. I have 7 Hs and have gone 5 for 15 with callbacks, bidding DC SF and NY
I'm bidding the same markets with the same grades and am 3 for 12.

Almost everyone I have talked to has a lot more than 4 Hs as well. of the people whose grades I know I'm the lowest.

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Re: Let's Determine Median at SLS via a scientifically-accurate poll

Post by Anonymous User » Sun Aug 16, 2015 3:28 am

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Just curious how everyone is doing at OCI. I have 7 Hs and have gone 5 for 15 with callbacks, bidding DC SF and NY
I'm bidding the same markets with the same grades and am 3 for 12.

Almost everyone I have talked to has a lot more than 4 Hs as well. of the people whose grades I know I'm the lowest.
I mean, part of it is that people with shitty grades aren't likely to talk about them. I doubt that 50% (7) Hs is below median.

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Re: Let's Determine Median at SLS via a scientifically-accurate poll

Post by Anonymous User » Sun Aug 16, 2015 3:33 am

Anonymous User wrote:My prof also dropped the "spread the H's thing." I'd assume most people had HHP or PPH (all that I've talked with have had one of these two).

Also, almost everyone I've talked with seems to have a lot more than 4 H's, although I think there's an obvious grain of salt with that.

OCS advised that people with 4 H's or under use all a lot of/all of their bids. I would say that's somewhere around median.
Nah, several people got all Hs in fed lit.

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Re: Let's Determine Median at SLS via a scientifically-accurate poll

Post by Anonymous User » Sun Aug 16, 2015 11:28 am

Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:
Anonymous User wrote:Just curious how everyone is doing at OCI. I have 7 Hs and have gone 5 for 15 with callbacks, bidding DC SF and NY
I'm bidding the same markets with the same grades and am 3 for 12.

Almost everyone I have talked to has a lot more than 4 Hs as well. of the people whose grades I know I'm the lowest.
I mean, part of it is that people with shitty grades aren't likely to talk about them. I doubt that 50% (7) Hs is below median.
I don't think 7Hs is below median, but I think 7Hs with no book prizes (which is where I'm at at least) isn't that far above it, either, if it's above it at all. I think we underestimate the value of book prizes. Remember that most people put them on their resumes and firms don't get our transcripts before we interview.

I also know multiple people with straight Hs in fed lit.

Fuck fed lit.

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