3L OCI - does it exist? Forum

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 12:26 am

Didn't get a 2L SA position, but am trying to do everything to put myself in the best position for 3L OCI. Since I struck out I wrote on to Law Review, had a couple governmental internships (USAO, Federal Judicial, and a regulatory agency), and have stayed roughly top 15%. Is there any shot at Biglaw or is 3L OCI basically only resume collection, or for those who already had a summer associate position to switch firms?

Avian · Post by **Avian** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 12:33 am

School rank?

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 12:46 am

Lower ranked school (not top 50) in a smaller/mid-size market, so I guess I'm really asking more about mid-Law firms that pay in the 100K range or so

ditch digger · Post by **ditch digger** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 1:01 am

It exists, but based upon my personal experience and anecdotal evidence from my classmates, firms tend to be a bit pickier when it comes to 3L OCI. Just apply and see what happens. The worst outcome is that you don't get hired.

mr.hands · Post by **mr.hands** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 1:17 am

It's very small. Generally students who got SAs do it to change firms. (That's the most common situation). I'd suggest that you go for it but also try to lock up a district court clerkship after graduation. Then transition to a firm.

2014 · Post by **2014** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 1:35 am

We had less than 25 firms, at least a 3rd of which wanted some sort of very specific background.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 3:35 pm

OCI? Not really. Mass mailing for 3Ls? Definitely. The issue though is that the main firms that hire are the biggest/most profitable firms and they're more selective.

For what you're looking for, I would still mail, but it's probably just whether or not they have an opening, not whether you're a 2L/3L or recent grad. What I mean is, I wouldn't feel as constrained about when to mail, just get applications to firms in the area as soon as you feel comfortable (re-)applying, do networking, hang out at the courthouse, and do the general 3L hustle.

Anonymous User · Post by **Anonymous User** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 7:51 pm

3L OCI was composed of mainly local firms or boutique litigation (T25)

irish921 · Post by **irish921** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 8:03 pm

The typical understanding is that biglaw will take a look at people with a 2L SA offer already. Its a trading up market. Some firms will take a non-insignificant group of 3Ls, most won't. As you sink down Vault it gets rarer and rarer.

thewaterlanding · Post by **thewaterlanding** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 10:42 pm

I got my position with a firm of roughly 40-50 people through 3L oci. I had a friend who had clerked with them who vouched for me and got a longer interview than the rest of the people. It really just fell into my lap. It can happen though and is at least worth the shot.

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