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- CicerBRo
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How common is it to do BigLaw and then do a clerkship
Let's say I wanted to do Biglaw for 2 or 3 years and then do a clerkship. How common is this? And would my grades matter as much?
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- Elston Gunn
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Re: How common is it to do BigLaw and then do a clerkship
It's quite common these days. Grades will still matter a lot, but there will probably be more leeway. There are a number of district judges who will basically only hire people with work experience, which limits their pool, so they have to be more forgiving of grades.
- Lincoln
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Re: How common is it to do BigLaw and then do a clerkship
Like Elston said, it's very common these days. In the SDNY, for example, a significant number of judges strongly prefer hiring alums (or hiring far enough out so people get experience). You will be more competitive for clerkships a few years out. A strong recommendation from a brand-name partner goes a long way to making up for that B in contracts.
- CicerBRo
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Re: How common is it to do BigLaw and then do a clerkship
Thanks for the quick and useful answers guys. Couldn't find the answer to this with the search function for some reason.
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Re: How common is it to do BigLaw and then do a clerkship
Seems to happen all the time now.
I had this awkward moment at a firm earlier this fall during an interview with an associate when we realized we had both applied to the same judge the week before.
I had this awkward moment at a firm earlier this fall during an interview with an associate when we realized we had both applied to the same judge the week before.
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Re: How common is it to do BigLaw and then do a clerkship
I'm in this boat. I have an offer to go clerk for a fed. d. ct. judge in a rad city. I clerked before for a fed coa judge. Do I want to be interviewing out of a clerkship as a 5th year? I don't know. I worry I'll be typecasted as a biglaw burnout that couldn't hack it the first time. My biglaw is uninterested in hiring back people that leave to clerk.
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Re: How common is it to do BigLaw and then do a clerkship
I did this. Clerked straight out for a DCt, went to BigLaw, left BigLaw for COA, and eventually returned to different BigLaw firm as a fifth-year lateral. The new firm didn't have concerns about my being a BigLaw burnout and accepted my explanation of my previous departure from BigLaw as based on a genuine desire to clerk on a top circuit court.
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Re: How common is it to do BigLaw and then do a clerkship
I'm doing this. I will leave to clerk in February at a DCt for 1.5 years after 2.5 years in biglaw. My firm said it would hire me back. FWIW, I've had a lot of substantive litigation experience that most juniors don't usually get (i.e., depo/trial experience) so that may have played a factor in my firm being willing to hire me back (because I won't be totally useless as a 4th year).
- jbagelboy
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Re: How common is it to do BigLaw and then do a clerkship
this seems as though it could be somewhat unusual since it's a trial court after a COA. That reflects differently than the other way around, which is certainly accepted practice. not to be overly cautious, and I couldn't tell you, but you might want to talk to someone more knowledgeable about this.Anonymous User wrote:I'm in this boat. I have an offer to go clerk for a fed. d. ct. judge in a rad city. I clerked before for a fed coa judge. Do I want to be interviewing out of a clerkship as a 5th year? I don't know. I worry I'll be typecasted as a biglaw burnout that couldn't hack it the first time. My biglaw is uninterested in hiring back people that leave to clerk.
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Re: How common is it to do BigLaw and then do a clerkship
Actually I've run into a lot of people who do district court after COA. and if either is going to give you skills relevant to litigation, it's the district court. I get the concern about whether someone's going to look like a biglaw refugee or not have the skills to match their class year if they do a second clerkship, but I don't think which kind you do first would make a difference.
(I do think it probably matters that you do 2 different kinds - there isn't a lot of reason to leave a job to do a second clerkship at a level where you've already clerked. Unless it's a feeder COA and you're setting up your SCOTUS run, maybe.)
(I do think it probably matters that you do 2 different kinds - there isn't a lot of reason to leave a job to do a second clerkship at a level where you've already clerked. Unless it's a feeder COA and you're setting up your SCOTUS run, maybe.)
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Re: How common is it to do BigLaw and then do a clerkship
I hope to stay in the area of the second clerkship when I'm done, and use the clerkship to move markets. I hope I can spin it as "I saw this as a great way to get roots in this city." I anticipate that I'll lose a class year.jbagelboy wrote:this seems as though it could be somewhat unusual since it's a trial court after a COA. That reflects differently than the other way around, which is certainly accepted practice. not to be overly cautious, and I couldn't tell you, but you might want to talk to someone more knowledgeable about this.Anonymous User wrote:I'm in this boat. I have an offer to go clerk for a fed. d. ct. judge in a rad city. I clerked before for a fed coa judge. Do I want to be interviewing out of a clerkship as a 5th year? I don't know. I worry I'll be typecasted as a biglaw burnout that couldn't hack it the first time. My biglaw is uninterested in hiring back people that leave to clerk.
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Re: How common is it to do BigLaw and then do a clerkship
Sometimes a second clerkship at the same "level" can also help you break into a particular area of law. The best example is CoA -> Fed Circuit if you want patents. You can also imagine why district court -> SDNY can help get into securities lit, or even bankruptcy. There are some other examples, but you get the idea.A. Nony Mouse wrote: (I do think it probably matters that you do 2 different kinds - there isn't a lot of reason to leave a job to do a second clerkship at a level where you've already clerked. Unless it's a feeder COA and you're setting up your SCOTUS run, maybe.)
But, generally, yes there is no reason to do two clerkships at the same "level" otherwise.
- Lincoln
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Re: How common is it to do BigLaw and then do a clerkship
Except clerking is a sweet gig.OneMoreLawHopeful wrote:Sometimes a second clerkship at the same "level" can also help you break into a particular area of law. The best example is CoA -> Fed Circuit if you want patents. You can also imagine why district court -> SDNY can help get into securities lit, or even bankruptcy. There are some other examples, but you get the idea.A. Nony Mouse wrote: (I do think it probably matters that you do 2 different kinds - there isn't a lot of reason to leave a job to do a second clerkship at a level where you've already clerked. Unless it's a feeder COA and you're setting up your SCOTUS run, maybe.)
But, generally, yes there is no reason to do two clerkships at the same "level" otherwise.
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